Obama touts this as success

Quote from mrbill:

You make a mistake that you admit to, and then hide from the conversation with the guy who knows what he's talking about? OK, AAA, I guess you've reached your new low. Time to, as they say in Florida, turn in your Drivers License. If you can't discuss facts, then America prefers you don't drive either.

What happened to the Late, Great AAA? From years ago, fighting the Iraq war with common sense?

What in the world are you blathering about, mrsoon tobe on ignore?

It's not my job to fact check some car salesman's claims. His sales figures looked ridiculous to me, so I dug up the actual numbers. Then I saw that he was using only a tiny subsection of sales for his bogus claim. That's not a mistake. I outed his misleading claim. Why should I waste time on a liar?

You really are a piece of work.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

What in the world are you blathering about, mrsoon tobe on ignore?

It's not my job to fact check some car salesman's claims. His sales figures looked ridiculous to me, so I dug up the actual numbers. Then I saw that he was using only a tiny subsection of sales for his bogus claim. That's not a mistake. I outed his misleading claim. Why should I waste time on a liar?

You really are a piece of work.

You said you saw the error when you used a different set of criteria. The difference between plug in and hybrid. That's all. Then, I admit, I was having some fun, as I like to do with those who are fearful of the written word on some forum, thus need to use Ignore. And, before anyone starts spouting that the left uses Ignore too, I know they do, and still think is childish.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

On closer examination, I see where the discrepancy came in. Sandy quoted only sales of pure electrics plus "plug in" hybrids. Apparently the Prius is not a plug in hybrid. Since I specifically referred to Prius sales, his comparison was intentionally misleading. What a surprise, a car salesman shaded the truth.

I'm through with this moron. He could have helped himself and his obvious passion for pushing Volts if he had come in here and acted like a normal person. Instead, he immediately began insulting people, saw a political issue where none existed, made obviously ridiculous claims about Volt sales and now is reduced to quoting bogus slaes figures.

Sandy , wlecome to ignore. You'll find quite a few of your leftwing pals there.
AAA, congratulations on digging up the facts that liberals (and car salesmen) find abhorrent. Another liar has been outed.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:On closer examination, I see where the discrepancy came in. Sandy quoted only sales of pure electrics plus "plug in" hybrids. Apparently the Prius is not a plug in hybrid. Since I specifically referred to Prius sales, his comparison was intentionally misleading. What a surprise, a car salesman shaded the truth.

I'm through with this moron. He could have helped himself and his obvious passion for pushing Volts if he had come in here and acted like a normal person. Instead, he immediately began insulting people, saw a political issue where none existed, made obviously ridiculous claims about Volt sales and now is reduced to quoting bogus slaes figures.

Sandy , wlecome to ignore. You'll find quite a few of your leftwing pals there.
OK, I'll admit I misread your statement. You said "There are plenty of buyers looking to buy electric cars, plug ins and hybrids. For some reason they are not buying Volts." I thought you had just said electric vehicles. If you want to compare the Volt to the Prius, which has been out for over 10 years, then go ahead. I'm not sure what the point of that is. The Volt has gone way ahead of a traditional hybrid. The fact remains that it has still sold more than all other plug in and all electric vehicles combined, including the Prius plug in. The facts are also that the Prius only sold 17k and 15k in its first and second years in operation. The Volt with about 23k total sales, seems right on track with the Prius.

And by the way, I am a registered Republican, at least for now. I would never vote for Obama.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:
While we disagree on the Volt, I know your pain over losing your dog. My condoleneces. I hope we get to meet our pets once again on the other side. Difficult as it may seem, I hope you can find it in your heart to save another doggie. Support your local shelter.
Thank you I appreciate it. The loss of our family dog was my excuse to leave home. I bought a house last year. I work 60+ hours, so am not able to get another dog. A few months ago I was going home at 10PM and stopped by the McDonald's next door. A cat was in the middle of the parking lot. She came right up to me. I picked her up, and checked for a tag. There wasn't one so I let her back down and tried to shoo her away. She came came back and jumped in my car. I took her home and she ran upstairs, moved my shoes in my closet and fell asleep. I took her to the humane society the next day. I searched Craigslist and the paper for any missing cats. 10 days went by and nobody claimed her so I adopted her. I named her Crystal, after my Volt (Crystal Red). She doesn't mind being home alone all day. I'm not really a cat person, but she is pretty cool. Whenever I do get another dog, it will be a rescue.
 
Quote from mrbill:
Sorry about your loss. I had to, for the first time in my life, have my dog put down 2 years ago. Hardest thing I ever had to do.

Fortunately, I had already picked up another unbelievable puppy two years earlier, he still helps with the pain.

You were able to get into the realm of reasonable conversation here on ET. I have to say Good Job for that.
To watch your dog die right in front of you in 15 seconds, after having raised him as a puppy, growing up with him, going through cancer with him and teaching him how to walk again on 3 legs, isn't something that I would wish on anybody. Dogs touch apart of our heart that people can't.
 
Quote from pspr:
AAA, congratulations on digging up the facts that liberals (and car salesmen) find abhorrent. Another liar has been outed.
What ever happened to your complaints about the new technology in the Volt being unproven and potentially costly over the the life of the vehicle? Are we over that now?
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Well your stock just jumped a couple of points.

And I still appreciate your involvement in the discussions. Sorry to hear that you've been brainwashed about the rombot2012, but that's OK. He's nothing to worry about. Has no chance of winning, but that's still ok.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

OK, I'll admit I misread your statement. You said "There are plenty of buyers looking to buy electric cars, plug ins and hybrids. For some reason they are not buying Volts." I thought you had just said electric vehicles. If you want to compare the Volt to the Prius, which has been out for over 10 years, then go ahead. I'm not sure what the point of that is. The Volt has gone way ahead of a traditional hybrid. The fact remains that it has still sold more than all other plug in and all electric vehicles combined, including the Prius plug in. The facts are also that the Prius only sold 17k and 15k in its first and second years in operation. The Volt with about 23k total sales, seems right on track with the Prius.

And by the way, I am a registered Republican, at least for now. I would never vote for Obama.

OK, I overreacted a bit. All I'm trying to say to you is you don't have to get in peoples' grill over this. Most of the guys here just want to have an honest discussion. No need to personalize it.

But why would I want to buy a plug in only, when I can get a very sophisticated hybrid like a prius for less money? If you only drive the Prius within its battery range, won't its economy figures be comparable to a Volt? And does the Volts' gas engine drive the wheels or just recharge the battery? I seem to recall some confusion about that when it came out.
 
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