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First off, anyone with an alias like yours is someone I figure I have to have an affinity for. Dog lovers are simply better people.

Now, you have to realize by now that anything Obama is in favor of is something these characters on ET have to be against. It's simply brainwashing, facts have no meaning to them.

Glad to hear your honest results from your car.
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My name is Stefan. Sandy was my perfect dog for 12 years. He went to Doggie Heaven last year. I have used the same screen name and password(also related to him) for years and figure why change.

Somebody once told me that they just don't trust somebody who isn't a dog person. I couldn't agree more.
 
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...They could do the consumer one favor and actually include the destination charge in the MSRP. There's no way of not paying that so I'm not sure why the don't include it. They also publish invoice prices that are not accurate because they do not includei invoice ad fees.
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That would make their total cost even higher.
 
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That would make their total cost even higher.
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The government could do the taxpayer a favor and stop paying people to buy the volt. Let it compete like a real car.
 
Quote from Sandybestdog:

My name is Stefan. Sandy was my perfect dog for 12 years. He went to Doggie Heaven last year. I have used the same screen name and password(also related to him) for years and figure why change.

Somebody once told me that they just don't trust somebody who isn't a dog person. I couldn't agree more.
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Sorry about your loss. I had to, for the first time in my life, have my dog put down 2 years ago. Hardest thing I ever had to do.

Fortunately, I had already picked up another unbelievable puppy two years earlier, he still helps with the pain.

You were able to get into the realm of reasonable conversation here on ET. I have to say Good Job for that.
 
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Neither do I. So let's stop calling it an Obamanobile. Saying Obama forced GM to build. That it costs taxpayers $200k+ to build each one. That only liberal tree huggers buy them. Bush enacted the $7500 tax credit, Obama has continued it.

Yet the sales figures disagree with you. According to the website below, 25,568 plug in hybrids/plug in extended range electric vehicles and pure electric vehicles have been sold in 2012 through August. GM has reported YTD Volt sales of 13,497. That's 52.7% of all electric car sales. To put that in words you can understand, more Volt's have been sold so far this year than every other plug in/electric car combined.

http://electricdrive.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/20952/pid/20952
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Nearly a quarter million Priuses were sold worldwide in the first quarter of 2012. http://moneyland.time.com/2012/05/29/toyota-prius-niche-car-no-more/

Your sales figures seem wildly off. The following chart is through May 2012:

BRAND/COMPANY Vol% Aug-12 Aug-11 Vol% YTD2012 YTD2011
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Ford Motor Co.
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Ford Escape Hybrid -93.96% 34 563 -79.74% 1,365 6,739
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Ford Fusion Hybrid 395.83% 1,071 216 -10.36% 7,168 7,996
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Lincoln MKZ Hybrid 103.26% 998 491 8.21% 4,218 3,898
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Ford Focus Electric na 34 0 na 169 0
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FORD MOTOR CO. TOTAL 68.27% 2,137 1,270 -30.66% 12,920 18,633
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Volkswagen
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Volkswagen Diesels 42.54% 8,776 6,157 29.85% 58,879 45,344
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General Motors
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Buick LaCrosse eAssist na 1,024 0 na 8,649 0
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Buick Regal eAssist na 331 0 na 1,422 0
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Chevrolet Malibu eAssist na 2,414 0 na 11,315 0
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Chevrolet Volt 837.42% 2,831 302 325.50% 13,497 3,172
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Other hybrids (SUVs, pickups) 133.33% 231 99 -31.53% 1,609 2,350
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GM TOTAL 1603.49% 6,831 401 560.85% 36,492 5,522
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Nissan North America
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Nissan Leaf -49.71% 685 1362 -31.45% 4,228 6,168
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Audi
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A3 TDI -23.72% 402 527 0.30% 2,715 2,707
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Q7 TDI -43.52% 183 324 -21.62% 1,958 2,498
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AUDI DIESEL TOTAL -31.26% 585 851 -10.22% 4,673 5,205
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Toyota Motor Co.
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Toyota Prius Liftback 40.25% 13,311 9,491 26.85% 106,452 83,918
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Toyota Prius C na 3,428 0 na 22,744 0
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Toyota Prius V na 3,325 0 na 29,130 0
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Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid na 1,047 0 na 6,082 0
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Toyota Prius (total) 122.43% 21,111 9,491 95.92% 164,408 83,918
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All other Toyota hybrids 688.42% 4,289 544 269.84% 34,613 9,359
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Lexus Hybrids 9.94% 3,560 3,238 32.95% 22,136 16,650
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TOYOTA MOTOR CO. TOTAL 118.19% 28,960 13,273 101.68% 221,697 109,927
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Mitsubishi
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Mitsubishi i na 37 0 na 403 0
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Porsche Cayenne S Hybrid -46.09% 69 128 -26.65% 798 1,088
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Porsche Panamera Hybrid na 48 0 na 323 0
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PORSCHE TOTAL -8.59% 117 128 3.03% 1,121 1,088
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American Honda
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Honda Civic Hybrid 446.23% 579 106 81.33% 5,168 2,850
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Honda CR-Z -47.38% 392 745 -67.56% 3,126 9,635
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Honda FCX Clarity na 1 0 na 3 0
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Honda Insight -64.52% 341 961 -63.37% 4,801 13,106
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Honda Fit EV na 9 0 na 16 0
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AMERICAN HONDA TOTAL -27.04% 1,322 1,812 -48.76% 13,114 25,591
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TOTAL (EST.) 95.81% 49,450 25,254 62.56% 353,527 217,478
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http://green.autoblog.com/2012/06/05/may-2012-alt-fuel-sales-led-by-prius-sales-jump-volt-gains/

Thus, to summarize, Toyota sold over 221,000 hybrids in the US through May 2012. GM sold a little over 13,000 Volts.
 
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My name is Stefan....
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You probably should have kept that to yourself.

about 0:50 in

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Quote from Sandybestdog:

My name is Stefan. Sandy was my perfect dog for 12 years. He went to Doggie Heaven last year. I have used the same screen name and password(also related to him) for years and figure why change.

Somebody once told me that they just don't trust somebody who isn't a dog person. I couldn't agree more.
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While we disagree on the Volt, I know your pain over losing your dog. My condoleneces. I hope we get to meet our pets once again on the other side. Difficult as it may seem, I hope you can find it in your heart to save another doggie. Support your local shelter.
 
On closer examination, I see where the discrepancy came in. Sandy quoted only sales of pure electrics plus "plug in" hybrids. Apparently the Prius is not a plug in hybrid. Since I specifically referred to Prius sales, his comparison was intentionally misleading. What a surprise, a car salesman shaded the truth.

I'm through with this moron. He could have helped himself and his obvious passion for pushing Volts if he had come in here and acted like a normal person. Instead, he immediately began insulting people, saw a political issue where none existed, made obviously ridiculous claims about Volt sales and now is reduced to quoting bogus slaes figures.

Sandy , wlecome to ignore. You'll find quite a few of your leftwing pals there.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

On closer examination, I see where the discrepancy came in. Sandy quoted only sales of pure electrics plus "plug in" hybrids. Apparently the Prius is not a plug in hybrid. Since I specifically referred to Prius sales, his comparison was intentionally misleading. What a surprise, a car salesman shaded the truth.

I'm through with this moron. He could have helped himself and his obvious passion for pushing Volts if he had come in here and acted like a normal person. Instead, he immediately began insulting people, saw a political issue where none existed, made obviously ridiculous claims about Volt sales and now is reduced to quoting bogus slaes figures.

Sandy , wlecome to ignore. You'll find quite a few of your leftwing pals there.
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You make a mistake that you admit to, and then hide from the conversation with the guy who knows what he's talking about? OK, AAA, I guess you've reached your new low. Time to, as they say in Florida, turn in your Drivers License. If you can't discuss facts, then America prefers you don't drive either.

What happened to the Late, Great AAA? From years ago, fighting the Iraq war with common sense?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

While we disagree on the Volt, I know your pain over losing your dog. My condoleneces. I hope we get to meet our pets once again on the other side. Difficult as it may seem, I hope you can find it in your heart to save another doggie. Support your local shelter.
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I'm convinced that their spirits are there waiting for us.
 
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