Thanks for precisely outlining why government has no business in this.
Obama to announce fix for canceled health plans
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Thanks for precisely outlining why government has no business in this.
1) obviously pricing was up to the insurers because they're private companies that provide the coverage and take the risk.
2) who cares, he made the promise and is a fucking liar. It should be clear to you that the ACA would very likely not be law if he told the truth. Ultimately, it is the fault of everyone who voted for this bill (100% dems) that millions of people are losing their coverage, NOT THE INSURERS, if there were no ACA they could still have their existing plans.
The rats are still jumping the ship.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/howard-dean-i-wonder-if-obama-has-legal-authority-do_767096.html
Former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean questioned whether President Obama has the "legal authority" to carry out the Obamacare fix the White House outlined today:
âI wonder if he has the legal authority to do this, since this was a congressional bill that set this up,â said Dean of Obama's proposed fix.
The former Vermont governor suggested that since the Obamacare website isn't working, the president's signature legislation might fail
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/howard-dean-i-wonder-if-obama-has-legal-authority-do_767096.html
Former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean questioned whether President Obama has the "legal authority" to carry out the Obamacare fix the White House outlined today:
âI wonder if he has the legal authority to do this, since this was a congressional bill that set this up,â said Dean of Obama's proposed fix.
The former Vermont governor suggested that since the Obamacare website isn't working, the president's signature legislation might fail
This is so typical. Liberals create a disaster, then propose a "cure" that will be somewhat popular initially but is totlly unworkable. Republicans will be blamed if they oppose the cure, but if they support it, they are just compounding the problem.
Even pelosi today says... she has a house plan.
Well where the hell is R leadership on this.
They should have the entire budget passed in sections up there right now... and just leave obamacare funding out....
and then say... not a penny more may be wasted on this until everyone can keep their plan and those who lost their plans get them back..... or be stronger than that.
Well where the hell is R leadership on this.
They should have the entire budget passed in sections up there right now... and just leave obamacare funding out....
and then say... not a penny more may be wasted on this until everyone can keep their plan and those who lost their plans get them back..... or be stronger than that.
hey occupy you're reading into that what you wished I said. The gov. has business doing this just like the gov has business requiring auto ins. Just watched Obama on TV, first political speech or talk I've listened to in a couple of months, damn about to go stir crazy with work slowing down, damn you winter time.The McCarran Ferguson Act exempts insurance companies from Dept. of Commerce regulation. They are regulated by the States they operate in. Hence they can sell you pretty much anything the State regulator says they can sell. The federal government , however, can determine which policies qualify for federal subsidies and tax breaks. The federal government can also determine which policies will exempt a person from paying a penalty and the amount of the penalty.
Without repeal of the McCarran Ferguson Act, I don't see how the federal government can achieve its cost and participation targets. It seems there are serious flaws here, and I can't understand how depending on competition between companies to achieve affordable rates, even assuming the participation targets are met, will work well as long as the McCarran Ferguson Act remains. Furthermore, when the court "teaked" the ACA by allowing individual States to opt out of medicaid expansion, that really threw a monkey wrench into the intended mechanism for getting minimum wage, single-no-dependents, and long-term unemployed covered in the non-participating States, i.e., the Deep South. (I am not clever enough, I guess, to see how this thing can work without bringing insurance company regulation under the Department of Commerce, and that would require repealing the McCarran Ferguson Act. Although that would seem impossible given the current House make-up, nothing is too bizarre to contemplate.
Without repeal of the McCarran Ferguson Act, I don't see how the federal government can achieve its cost and participation targets. It seems there are serious flaws here, and I can't understand how depending on competition between companies to achieve affordable rates, even assuming the participation targets are met, will work well as long as the McCarran Ferguson Act remains. Furthermore, when the court "teaked" the ACA by allowing individual States to opt out of medicaid expansion, that really threw a monkey wrench into the intended mechanism for getting minimum wage, single-no-dependents, and long-term unemployed covered in the non-participating States, i.e., the Deep South. (I am not clever enough, I guess, to see how this thing can work without bringing insurance company regulation under the Department of Commerce, and that would require repealing the McCarran Ferguson Act. Although that would seem impossible given the current House make-up, nothing is too bizarre to contemplate.
The Limbaugh article that you posted summed up where the R leadership is on this issue. After the PR drubbing that they've taken, I think that they want to step aside as much as possible and let the D's implode on their own.
As AAAintheBeltway noted, the D's love to create fixes to problems of their own creation, and subsequently blame the R's for opposing their lunacy. I can already foresee this very same tactic for the umpeenth time...regardless of how "unfixable" O-Care is currently and in the future...the D's will re-frame the argument and the media will play along to try and deflect the enormity of this crisis.