Obama Continues Global Warming Agenda

Quote from Scataphagos:

...What will the hoi polloi Odumbo voters think of that when reality sinks in?
1) Obama supporters don't do a lot of thinking.
2) Most Obamabots WANT us to give our wealth away to third world shit holes that hate us
3) Most are too busy playing video games and watching network TV to even notice to begin with.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

1) Obama supporters don't do a lot of thinking.

I understand that. (They do about as much thinking as I did when at a college party, having had a few too many, and a cute... or ugly... chick was caressing my thigh.) But I wonder how they react when their license plate registration jumps by $300/year for "carbon tax"... especially when they learn where their $300 ends up. I'm sure a few of them will go "Yeah man, that's righteous"... fantasizing that the tax money will go to the poor in those countries they imagine were "victims of greedy American capitalists"... but most of them will go, "WTF"?
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

According to Dick Morris...

Odumbo wants to initiate a "carbon tax"... to be paid to the UN and distributed to other countries... most of which will end up in the pocket of 3rd world dictators.

IOW... each time you renew your vehicle registration or fill up with gas or pay your utility bill, included will be a "carbon tax" for the energy you used.

What will the hoi polloi Odumbo voters think of that when reality sinks in?

That's the same Dick who predicted a Romney landslide win.


ha ha ha ha
 
Quote from pspr:



BTW, does anyone else have a problem with the new jumbo ads at the top of every page?

Makes it easier to know who to totally avoid. Looks ridiculous.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Would a a liberal dick sucker like you even recognize it if you saw it?

I thought that was Phoenix's forte' ? Or, I guess a conservative member of that team I guess. Why do you have to resort to such crap? Just denigrates you.
 
Quote from mrbill:

I thought that was Phoenix's forte' ? Or, I guess a conservative member of that team I guess. Why do you have to resort to such crap? Just denigrates you.

Just like your assortment of sockpuppets.
 
Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, last week dismissed the significance of the plateau, saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.
Others disagreed. Professor Judith Curry, who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.
Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’ – factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun. However, he said he was still convinced that the current decade would end up significantly warmer than the previous two.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...y-released--chart-prove-it.html#ixzz2CJQ6tXf5
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Quote from futurecurrents:

Claims global warming stopped 15 years ago are based on "cherry-picked" data and don't account for natural fluctuations in climate, according to climate scientists responding to an article that appeared Saturday (Oct. 13) in the British newspaper, The Daily Mail.
The article cites combined global land and sea-temperature data compiled by British climate researchers, claiming that between August 1997 and August 2012, "there was no discernable rise in aggregate global temperatures."
The implication, writes the article's author David Rose, is that computer models, including those used by UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, are flawed and have made overly dire predictions.
The article appears to be based on an update to a global temperature dataset called HadCRUT4, which is compiled by the U.K.'s national weather service, known as The Met Office, and the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit.
The Met Office has issued a response to the article. It does not dispute the trend Rose identifies, but says Rose's article contains "some misleading information."
Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University, called the latest story "just more dishonest cherry-picking and sleight of hand by Rose" and his go-to sources.
"This is just one in a continuing series of hit pieces by David Rose in The Daily Mail that completely misrepresents climate science and climate scientists. Global warming hasn't stopped by any objective measure; it is proceeding right on schedule. In many respects (e.g. the dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice this summer), it is well ahead of schedule," Mann told LiveScience in an email. [8 Ways Global Warming Is Already Changing the World]
In the Met's response to the article, they state the answers they provided to Rose's questions before he wrote the article.In them, The Met states that the data show an increase in global temperatures of 0.09 degrees Fahrenheit (0.05 degrees Celsius) between August 1997 and August 2012, adding that calculating the trend beginning in 1999 would show a more substantial warming.
In other words, the trend you see will vary depending on the start and end dates chosen.
"Climate change can only be detected from multi-decadal timescales due to the inherent variability in the climate system," reads The Met's response.
At the core of the debate are natural fluctuations in climate and the role they play in climate change. Natural patterns — such as cycles in ocean surface temperatures — can play out over multiple decades, augmenting or counteracting the effects of man-made changes.
As a result, only over longer time periods do the effects of human-caused climate change become clear.
"Over the last 140 years global [sea] surface temperatures have risen by about 0.8 degrees C [1.44 degrees Fahrenheit]," responds The Met. "However, within this record there have been several periods lasting a decade or more during which temperatures have risen very slowly or cooled. The current period of reduced warming is not unprecedented and 15 year long periods are not unusual."
An earlier article Rose wrote for The Daily Mail invoked the global temperature plateau to question man-made global warming and pointed to cycles in the sun's activity as having an important influence in climate. Recent research suggests that while the sun's lulls and flare-ups may impact Earth's temperature, man-made greenhouse gases are the main drivers of global warming.
A spokesman for the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) declined to comment, but noted that NOAA's monthly climate report, released on Monday (Oct. 15) showed September 2012 as one of a long line of consecutive months with global temperatures above the 20th-century average. Last month tied with September 2005 for the warmest September on record globally, the report stated.



This David Rose guy should be shot.
 
Quote from pspr:

Obama: "....What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago...."

http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-i-am-a-firm-believer-that-climate-change-is-real

Met Office: Global warming stopped 16 years ago...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-report-quietly-released--chart-prove-it.html

DailyMail, CNSNews ..you don't get facts in the way of a good circlejerk!


"Firstly, the Met Office has not issued a report on this issue. We can only assume the article is referring to the completion of work to update the HadCRUT4 global temperature dataset compiled by ourselves and the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit.

We announced that this work was going on in March and it was finished this week. You can see the HadCRUT4 website here."


http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/met-office-in-the-media-14-october-2012/
 
from the Met office..

It is the second article Mr Rose has written which contains some misleading information, after he wrote an article earlier this year on the same theme.

As we’ve stressed before, choosing a starting or end point on short-term scales can be very misleading. Climate change can only be detected from multi-decadal timescales due to the inherent variability in the climate system. If you use a longer period from HadCRUT4 the trend looks very different. For example, 1979 to 2011 shows 0.16°C/decade (or 0.15°C/decade in the NCDC dataset, 0.16°C/decade in GISS). Looking at successive decades over this period, each decade was warmer than the previous – so the 1990s were warmer than the 1980s, and the 2000s were warmer than both. Eight of the top ten warmest years have occurred in the last decade.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

from the Met office..

It is the second article Mr Rose has written which contains some misleading information, after he wrote an article earlier this year on the same theme.

As we’ve stressed before, choosing a starting or end point on short-term scales can be very misleading. Climate change can only be detected from multi-decadal timescales due to the inherent variability in the climate system. If you use a longer period from HadCRUT4 the trend looks very different. For example, 1979 to 2011 shows 0.16°C/decade (or 0.15°C/decade in the NCDC dataset, 0.16°C/decade in GISS). Looking at successive decades over this period, each decade was warmer than the previous – so the 1990s were warmer than the 1980s, and the 2000s were warmer than both. Eight of the top ten warmest years have occurred in the last decade.

this great stuff ... we now have the climate guys... the very guys who rely on a very short term chart complaining when someone takes a shorter term chart.

here is a long term chart... and you can read what it shows for yourself.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2,Temperaturesandiceages-f.pdf
 
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