NY Guv Cuomo: "Confisication an Option"

[Hoofhearted]

Quote from Lucrum:

That's one way to spin it with having to face the fact the 22,000 we already have aren't stopping mass murders. My point in case you missed and or chose to ignore it. Is that more regulation whether we can "live with it" or not. Is not a solution. Never was in the first.

I never claimed or even insenuated it was a solution. I said it was an option. I also said there is a need for regulation of firearms, just as there is a need for regulation on anything that can bring about catastrophic mishaps-Cars, Mining equipment, Jet Airplanes, etc. etc.

Tell me, Lurcum, Would you rather we do away with all of the more or less 22,000 laws and regulations that are in place?

If your answer is yes, I can respect that, but I can also tell you that it will never happen, and it SHOULDN'T happen.

So why suggest we can live with more useless regulations then?

Here your prejudice has manifested into false words that you have put into my mouth.

I never suggested that we could live with more useless regulation, although I'm betting that we could- afterall, we are a resilient bunch and I doubt a few more useless regulations will kill us.

What I am suggesting is a need for some useful regulations. I imagine we could probably do away with a whole lot of the useless ones.

What kinds of regulations would be the most useful? I cannot say at the moment. Perhaps if I spent as much time and energy as you and others have worrying about the gun control aspect of the situation, I may have some decent suggestions for you. The fact is, I'm not putting much emphasis on the gun control aspect, because I think it has little to do with the the true problem of what happened in Sandyhook.

Neither, just an observation. [/B]

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[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

Really?
I ask because frequently the cops get a pass when they shoot someone they shouldn't have.
It's the armed private citizens like me that get crucified for doing exactly what the police get away with on an all too regular basis.

Although there are a lot of good cops there are plenty who shouldn't be in the "right or wrong, I got your back" club. Generally, it's not enough for a cop to be negligent to find him in the wrong but he has to be grossly negligent. That's the law.

But, what's that got to do with Cuomo? Nothing, Cuomo is just another wrong minded liberal douche who likes to put his foot in his mouth. And the lefties just lap up that manure.

 

[jem]

confiscation? sell to govt?...

great idea... then holder and obama can sell them to mexican crime syndicates and they can kill americans and mexican pop stars at will.

just what we need the federal govt in charge of more of our lives.

 

[Hoofhearted]

Quote from nutmeg:

Cuomo thinks he is "educating" us. Imo, he is "training" us.

"This is how the system works, get used to it."

Yea well the system blows and is misguided.

The current situation at hand is a failure of and to the mental health community and we are going to deal with this deficiency with gun control.

agreed. It's disheartening to see so many focus on gun control- both the left and the right.

It's like a scenario where every year more and more houses are collapsing unexpectedly, and all we can think to do is talk about the materials, and the tools, instead of the builders, and the techniques that are used to construct.

A life time of misguided and negligent Human Interaction is the invisible elephant in the room, when it comes to the shootings. Sorry if that is OT, but like I said, I won't put much effort into the thread's topic, as there just isn't much to say other than it's bullshit.

edit: What I mean to say, it's BS that we even have to talk about it, instead of the real problem.

 

[nutmeg]

Quote from Lucrum:

Really?
I ask because frequently the cops get a pass when they shoot someone they shouldn't have.

I can't find the examples I was looking for. For example, cop shoots mentally ill person, gets a pass, justified shooting, then later cop commits suicide, retires, etc. over his decision to shoot.


The mentally ill are a huge risk to police and the police have guns. This is my point. Putting armed officers in schools to protect against wha is most likely a mentally ill threatattacker is assbackwards. The problem is how we treat the mentally ill.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Step aside Hillary,Cuomo 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pspr]

Quote from nutmeg:

Putting armed officers in schools to protect against wha is most likely a mentally ill threatattacker is assbackwards.

You're saying we should take guns away from cops and arm the mentally ill? Or we should put armed mentally ill people in schools to defend them from other armed mentally ill people?

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Step aside Hillary,Cuomo 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Earlier you said Hillary was a lock, now it's Cuomo?

And you've got nothing better to concern yourself with, for the next FOUR YEARS?

 

[pspr]

Quote from Lucrum:

Earlier you said Hillary was a lock, now it's Cuomo?

And you've got nothing better to concern yourself with, for the next FOUR YEARS?

What!!??? IQ-47 isn't backing Obama for a third term? I'm sure no one will care that he would be breaking the law, he does that almost every day and no one says a word.

We've still got to get past the great Obama recession and monitary problems before we can even talk about what sort of government we will have in 2016.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Hoofhearted:

I never claimed or even insenuated it was a solution. I said it was an option.

Oh, I thought we were discussing potential solutions, not options

I also said there is a need for regulation of firearms

Again, we ALREADY have firearms regulation. If regulation was the solution or even an option worth discussing we'd already be the safest country in the world.

Tell me, Lurcum, Would you rather we do away with all of the more or less 22,000 laws and regulations that are in place?

Not all necessarily, just the ones that subvert the 2nd amendment and or don't work. Which IS most of them.

If your answer is yes, I can respect that, but I can also tell you that it will never happen, and it SHOULDN'T happen.

I did not say nor do I think it will happen.

I never suggested that we could live with more useless regulation

Yet you have no problem accepting being subjugated by more useless regulations

...I doubt a few more useless regulations will kill us.

They are ALREADY killing us. By limiting our ability to defend ourselves. And you want even MORE restrictions?

What I am suggesting is a need for some useful regulations...

You mean laws the law breakers will actually abide by?

What kinds of regulations would be the most useful? I cannot say at the moment....

You have no idea but you're willing to accept even more simply because an anti gun politician tells you they're "useful" regulations?

Do your own research and think for yourself man.