Nunes does 180: Trump Team under surveillance. Not connected to Russia. All names revealed.

Also, there's the issue of how this has been presented to the public.

When we had the big congressional investigation live on tv, all comey said was that there was no evidence obama ordered a wiretap of trump. So that could be The Big News. Of course they knew at that point that trump's people were being surveilled, but they didn't say a word about it. That would spoil their narrative. They wanted headlines blaring Trump Was Wrong He Lied. They didn't acknowledge that his people were listened in on until a few days later.

Wouldn't have worked quite so well if they had told the complete truth and acknowledged that even though obama didn't get a fisa, trump's people were surveilled and the contents of what they said was passed all around illegally.

They set it up like this to deceive the public. To favor the deep state and paint a dark pic of trump. Comey did this.
Agree. Obama didn't 'do' it. But his underlyings did. And Obama watched and listened, along side.

It's all semantics.... to cast dispersion's on Trump etc.

If they have FISA's on Trump, its all over. Time to go all in.
 
Lol, you are just pissed off this Russia topic will not go away and it won't until it will be uncovered and Trump impeached. If not uncovered it will be with Trump for his full 4 years. He must be praying every night that nobody in the intelligence community will spill the beans. Before that i bet someone in the irs will release many more of his tax records that will show all his dealings with Russia.

Putin has Trump by the balls and Trump knows it.

Agree. Obama didn't 'do' it. But his underlyings did. And Obama watched and listened, along side.

It's all semantics.... to cast dispersion's on Trump etc.

If they have FISA's on Trump, its all over. Time to go all in.
 
Briefing the president on the status of an investigation into the president's activities? Before even showing it to Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee? Based on his actions yesterday, it's arguable that Nunes is carrying Trump's water.
 
exactly, Republicans still celebrate Nune's comments while they don't get it that it was actually very damaging to the president.

Briefing the president on the status of an investigation into the president's activities? Before even showing it to Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee? Based on his actions yesterday, it's arguable that Nunes is carrying Trump's water.
 
They thought they'd get in trouble if they tapped trump and his people directly so they just tapped everyone that trump met with and then unmasked the trump people. Unmasking is a crime.

We have no crimes by Trump and multiple crimes by the IC.

Any investigation that continues that does not include the IC and what the previous administration knew about it is completely tainted and illegitimate.

If people on the deep state side don't go to prison out of all this then we need to vote in a whole new congress that will uphold the law.
 
Lol, you are just pissed off this Russia topic will not go away and it won't until it will be uncovered and Trump impeached. If not uncovered it will be with Trump for his full 4 years. He must be praying every night that nobody in the intelligence community will spill the beans. Before that i bet someone in the irs will release many more of his tax records that will show all his dealings with Russia.

Putin has Trump by the balls and Trump knows it.

What a bunch of horseshit.

There's no evidence about Russia because there's nothing to provide. Similarly, the wiretap crap about Obama ordering it is also a non-starter because there is no evidence about it. People need to get over the two issues and move on to solving problems.
 
agree, but I think most are already desensitized about the damaging of institutions, offices, and processes by the current president, his aides, surrogates, and transition team members, many of which have a very dark past and been engaged with foreign state players to varying degrees. Hence, most of us would not even notice anymore. It is like a drug addiction. Our tolerance is increasing and Trump has to come up with ever more ludicrous accusations and baseless attacks in order to shock.

First and foremost, it was damaging to the integrity of the process.
 
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Nunes bombshell disclosures may have involved a considerable amount of ass covering. The same day he made them, Judicial Watch and its intrepid leader Larry Klayman released a letter to Nunes detailing far more shocking allegations:

"As I have written in this Newsmax blog and elsewhere particularly of late, my client, former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, holds the keys to disproving the false claims of those representatives and senators on the House and Senate intelligence committees, reportedly as well as FBI Director James Comey, that there is no evidence that the president and his men were wiretapped.

Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even yours truly. Working side by side with Obama's former Director of National Intelligence (DIA), James Clapper, and Obama's former Director of the CIA, John Brennan, Montgomery witnessed “up close and personal” this “Orwellian Big Brother” intrusion on privacy, likely for potential coercion, blackmail or other nefarious purposes.

But when Montgomery came forward as a whistleblower to congressional intelligence committees and various other congressmen and senators, including Senator Charles Grassley, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who, like Comey, once had a reputation for integrity, he was “blown off;” no one wanted to even hear what he had to say. The reason, I suspect, is that Montgomery’s allegations were either too hot to handle, or the congressional intelligence and judiciary committees already knew that this unconstitutional surveillance was being undertaken. Moreover, given the power of the NSA, CIA, and DNI, for congressional committee heads to take action to legitimately and seriously investigate and if necessary recommend prosecution of officials like Clapper and Brennan could, given the way Washington works, result in the spy agencies disclosing and leaking (as occurred recently with General Michael Flynn), the details of their mass surveillance, ruining the careers if not personal lives of any politician who would take them on."
http://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman...ontgomery-whitsleblower/2017/03/19/id/779551/

There is more but that is the gist of it. See also http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2...ent-surveillance-two-years-ago-fbi-sat-on-it/

Klayman and Judicial Watch are not some fringe players. Their lawsuits have yielded more information on Obama era scandals than anything the ineffectual republicucks in congress produced, eg on the IRS Tea Party scandal.

This is clearly an issue that the media and congress desperately want to ignore, as it would be a huge win for Trump and a mortal blow to the Deep State. Congress, and Nunes in particular as Chairman of the Intell Committee, would face awkward questions about how they allowed this to happen. Nunes' disclosure of intercepts and illegal unmasking and leaking can be seen as a frantic attempt to get ahead of the story and divert attention from a far bigger scandal.
 
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