NRA Hijinks

Seventeen-year-old Kai Kloepfer wants to sell you a gun.

Dressed in a navy suit, his hair more neatly combed than is normal for a boy his age, Kloepfer was speaking to me just before taking the stage at a TEDx event, where he was set to showcase his newest idea: a gun that can only be fired by its owner or a select few with permission to operate it.

The idea, which appeared to the high schooler in a dream, was born out of equal parts necessity and tragic inspiration. Kloepfer needed a science fair project, and about an hour’s drive away in Aurora, Colo., James Holmes had just murdered 12 people and injured scores more inside a movie theater.

Seven months and over one thousand hours later, the budding engineer had created a model for a biometric firearm that requires an authorized user’s fingerprint to discharge. Kloepfer knew the design wouldn’t have stopped the Aurora massacre, but he thought it might prevent the kind of accidental shootings and suicides that cause more damage and get less media attention.

The current prototype is just plastic. Kloepfer plans to move the technology to an actual gun with a recently awarded $50,000 grant, the first in a number of prizes from a pool of $1 million being awarded by the Smart Tech Challenges Foundation, Silicon Valley’s answer to the gun violence epidemic. Angel investor Ron Conway (with stakes in Facebook and Google, among other companies) started the group, in response to the December 2012 mass shooting deaths of 20 elementary school students and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The main goal, as Director Jim Pitkow explained it to me, is to stimulate firearms safety technology “by engaging directly with innovators and incentivizing their progress.”

“We’re looking for the ideas that haven’t been thought of yet,” Pitkow said at a Fast Company event.

If America still doesn’t have a widely-available smart gun—the nickname for a firearm that is useless in the wrong hands, able to recognize its shooter by PIN number, a radio frequency emitted by an owner-worn device, of some other biometric marker like a electronically recognized grip or a fingerprint—it’s not for lack of trying. For as long as we’ve had guns, they’ve fallen into the wrong hands (those of children, or mass murderers), and the people that make and shoot firearms have worked on improvements to make them safer. Now, decades of research have finally culminated in the first generation of reliable smart guns—including Koepfel’s prototype and the Armitrix, a handgun that uses radio frequency to identify its owner.

But would-be manufacturers of smart guns and safety proponents face a new hurdle: no gun shop will sell the things, thanks to intense harassment from the NRA and its devotees.

Yet an obscure state law, and a firearm maker that has been quietly selling its smart gun on the side, may soon force the hand of smart gun opponents, a move that could have far-reaching implications for public safety, the firearm industry and individual gun owners. more . . .

This has been tried before, many times. Part of the problem was that the so-called "smart gun" would be able to be turned off by law enforcement (which makes the gun useless to anyone who wants it for protection if it can be turned off via signal). The other thing is those pesky hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation that don't have it.

And it's not that no gun shop will sell them because of harassment from the NRA. That's more left bullshit. No gun shop will sell them because of the same reason other retail establishments don't sell things that won't sell.
 
This has been tried before, many times. Part of the problem was that the so-called "smart gun" would be able to be turned off by law enforcement (which makes the gun useless to anyone who wants it for protection if it can be turned off via signal). The other thing is those pesky hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation that don't have it.

And it's not that no gun shop will sell them because of harassment from the NRA. That's more left bullshit. No gun shop will sell them because of the same reason other retail establishments don't sell things that won't sell.
Yet again cold harsh indisputable reality makes douche bag phoenix look like a brain dead moron.
 
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This has been tried before, many times. Part of the problem was that the so-called "smart gun" would be able to be turned off by law enforcement (which makes the gun useless to anyone who wants it for protection if it can be turned off via signal). The other thing is those pesky hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation that don't have it.

And it's not that no gun shop will sell them because of harassment from the NRA. That's more left bullshit. No gun shop will sell them because of the same reason other retail establishments don't sell things that won't sell.

Interesting the last part - and I agree - why sell what wont sell. Which if its true tells you that gun owners are not buying it to protect themselves from intruders, or bad guys - but that they think that the bad guys are the government/law enforcement.
Now there is nothing wrong with that, but it kind of makes the claims I am protecting my family from criminals BS when they are really worried about the government. Obviously they are not exclusive.

It also shows that a lot of the gun selling industry is not about protection but selling a product.

Clearly getting rid of the illegal guns in circulation already would take time, and it actually might make a step in the right direction for ending some needless deaths or times when the heat of the moment could do with a 30 sec time out..
At the end of the day when the 3d printers can produce them it wont matter much anyways.
 
WASHINGTON (AP) — Investigators found more than 800 rounds of ammunition in the car of the man accused of scaling the White House fence and sprinting inside the building, a federal prosecutor said Monday. A machete and two hatchets also were found.

In a federal court proceeding, Assistant U.S. Attorney David Mudd declared that the accused intruder, Omar J. Gonzalez, was a danger to the president. Gonzalez was arrested just inside the White House front door.

President Barack Obama and his family had left the White House for Camp David Friday evening when the incident occurred. Obama's spokesman said Monday that the president was "obviously concerned" about what happened.

Mudd also disclosed that Gonzalez was already under indictment in Virginia, accused of having a sawed-off shotgun and eluding police in a case this summer. Wythe County Deputy Commonwealth Attorney David Saliba said Gonzales had a map of Washington, D.C., and Mudd said in court on Monday that the White House was circled on the map.

Saliba also said Gonzalez had the sawed-off shotgun, two powerful rifles, four handguns and other guns and ammunition in his Ford Bronco when troopers stopped him in southwestern Virginia on July 19.

Saliba said Gonzalez initially tried to flee troopers, weaving and driving off the road into a highway median.

Gonzalez was arrested at the scene after a trooper found the illegal shotgun in his car. The ammunition and weapons, including a tomahawk hatchet, were seized.
 
WASHINGTON (AP) — Investigators found more than 800 rounds of ammunition in the car of the man accused of scaling the White House fence and sprinting inside the building, a federal prosecutor said Monday. A machete and two hatchets also were found.

In a federal court proceeding, Assistant U.S. Attorney David Mudd declared that the accused intruder, Omar J. Gonzalez, was a danger to the president. Gonzalez was arrested just inside the White House front door.

President Barack Obama and his family had left the White House for Camp David Friday evening when the incident occurred. Obama's spokesman said Monday that the president was "obviously concerned" about what happened.

Mudd also disclosed that Gonzalez was already under indictment in Virginia, accused of having a sawed-off shotgun and eluding police in a case this summer. Wythe County Deputy Commonwealth Attorney David Saliba said Gonzales had a map of Washington, D.C., and Mudd said in court on Monday that the White House was circled on the map.

Saliba also said Gonzalez had the sawed-off shotgun, two powerful rifles, four handguns and other guns and ammunition in his Ford Bronco when troopers stopped him in southwestern Virginia on July 19.

Saliba said Gonzalez initially tried to flee troopers, weaving and driving off the road into a highway median.

Gonzalez was arrested at the scene after a trooper found the illegal shotgun in his car. The ammunition and weapons, including a tomahawk hatchet, were seized.

Who needs 800 rounds to shoot one unqualified lying dumb ass with big ears?
 
Clearly getting rid of the illegal guns in circulation already would take time, and it actually might make a step in the right direction for ending some needless deaths or times when the heat of the moment could do with a 30 sec time out..

Time? You talking about 100 years or so?

It wouldn't happen. If you disagree, explain how you'd go about doing it. We've had these discussions here - in this very thread. I suggest you read the full thread before bringing up what we've already discussed.

I'm happy to listen.
 
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