Now I know why righties are so deluded about global warming

[futurecurrents]

Quote from wjk:

The problem with some of us is that we know many in power, especially on the left, are using the science to further their agendas, including redistribution on a global scale. To some extent, the science has been hijacked. That is what you don't see...easily understood because you trust gov more than most in this forum.

Oh really? Redistribution on a global scale to benefit who exactly? What agendas? You mean virtually all the world's scientists are in on some solar profit making scheme? You mean all the world's science orgs are agreeing about AGW so they can profit?

And what about the fossil fuel industry? Do they have no power? Are they a weak developing industry with no ties to govt? Frankly, I'm amazed that govt associated science actually has done good unbiased science considering how much power the coal and oil industry has within the govt.



It's simple. CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we have raised levels by 40%. That's causing the earth to warm up. It's simple as that.

 

[futurecurrents]

This is the "updated science". (I love that, as if CO2 suddenly has been found not to be a greenhouse gas):

All the models did not fail.

The earth has not stopped or even slowed warming.

The heat over the last 15 years or so has gone into the oceans which has kept the atmosphere from heating as much as it was. Due to AMO PDO etc. Why this is so hard for you to understand?


And you are still relying on a bullshit website run by a second-rate weatherman prostitute. You can't find anything from authoritative sites can you? You quote fools and prostitutes and offer irrelevant things as if they mean something.

Quote from jem:

you need to update your agw nutter science. all that watts per square meter and math was just speculation as to our dynamic environment. all those models failed.

the code word is climate sensitivity and every nutter now understands the climate is less sensitive to co2.


even co chief nutters are admitting they over estimated co2's "forcing". its not all co2.

just two days ago...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

The journal Nature embraces ‘the pause’ and ocean cycles as the cause, Trenberth still betting his heat will show up
Posted on January 16, 2014 by Anthony Watts
This post will be a “top sticky post” for a day or two due to its significance, new stories will appear below this one.

From the “settled science” department. It seems even Dr. Kevin Trenberth is now admitting to the cyclic influences of the AMO and PDO on global climate. Neither “carbon” nor “carbon dioxide” is mentioned in this article that cites Trenberth as saying: “The 1997 to ’98 El Niño event was a trigger for the changes in the Pacific, and I think that’s very probably the beginning of the hiatus,”

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

It's always a political thing with you. "The problem with you righties" or "your (sic) an idiot". Then, when people insult you back, you put them on ignore.

I don't care what so-called, self-described climate "experts" say will happen in 10,000 years. I'd like to see the science. You talk a good talk, but when the debate is put to you, you throw all sorts of math terms and insults around to make the topic as confusing as possible.

You're a charlatan. And, you're a hypocrite, if what these folks here say about you - repairing HVAC units.

Oh brother. Math terms confuse you? Like what? Average? Percentage? I'm not enough of a mathematician to confuse anyone but the most math ignorant.

I only have Lucrum on ignore.

The fact that you don't care what the experts say explains why you are so confused and ignorant. Now I understand why you are clueless about AGW. Now it makes perfect sense.

Assuming that somehow I AM a hypocrite because I do HVAC....so what? It has nothing to do with the solid science of AGW. Ad hom arguments are poor arguments.


And again...ten thousand years? AGW is going to a big problem waaaaay before that. You're being foolish.

 

[wjk]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Oh really? Redistribution on a global scale to benefit who exactly? What agendas? You mean virtually all the world's scientists are in on some solar profit making scheme? You mean all the world's science orgs are agreeing about AGW so they can profit?

It's obvious that my comments aren't within your reality.


You and your progressive pals have already dismissed the opinions of those who don't agree (and I'm not talking about the Koch's). It's a shame to see someone who might otherwise demonstrate intelligence be so controlled by something to close their mind to the realities of the world (and I'm not talking about the science). You are owned by the Al Gores of the worlds (or you are on the payroll.)

You have successfully alienated the few people here who actually agree with you regarding man having some influence on warming. You demonstrate so many qualities about left wingers that are hated. Well done.

If you want people to actually listen to you, stop being a know it all prick.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from wjk:

It's obvious that my comments aren't within your reality.


You and your progressive pals have already dismissed the opinions of those who don't agree (and I'm not talking about the Koch's). It's a shame to see someone who might otherwise demonstrate intelligence be so controlled by something to close their mind to the realities of the world (and I'm not talking about the science). You are owned by the Al Gores of the worlds (or you are on the payroll.)

You have successfully alienated the few people here who actually agree with you regarding man having some influence on warming. You demonstrate so many qualities about left wingers that are hated. Well done.

If you want people to actually listen to you, stop being a know it all prick.

Start making sense then. Saying the science of AGW is being warped or a conspiracy by the profit motive or used to distribute wealth via the UN or some other such nonsense, is simply right wing hysterical propaganda nonsense. There is ZERO evidence of any of this on the science side. The scientists do science, period. And 97% of them all over the world say man is causing the world to warm.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Oh brother. Math terms confuse you? Like what? Average? Percentage? I'm not enough of a mathematician to confuse anyone but the most math ignorant.

Math certainly does not confuse me. Shady application of it, however, confuses everyone.

Quote from futurecurrents:


I only have Lucrum on ignore.

Yes, because he was insulting to you (as you are to everyone else).

Quote from futurecurrents:


The fact that you don't care what the experts say explains why you are so confused and ignorant. Now I understand why you are clueless about AGW. Now it makes perfect sense.

Because, to me, they're not "Experts". Only to the fanatical and brainwashed. When someone asks you a question on a topic you're defending, and you say "google it", that's a cop out. This is a discussion forum, meant for debate.

Quote from futurecurrents:


Assuming that somehow I AM a hypocrite because I do HVAC....so what? It has nothing to do with the solid science of AGW. Ad hom arguments are poor arguments.

Yet, you use ad hom in most of your posts. Hmm.

 

[tandh]

Quote from futurecurrents:

I was just watching Glen Beck. And he was saying that the snow on his ranch, the Artic vortex, and the science ship getting stuck in the ice is proof that there is no global warming, in his dramatic way with videos of Al Gore in the background.

Is he REALLY that dumb? It seems like he is denying even that the earth is warming! It boggles my mind that someone like him could be that dumb.

I got so mad I threw something at the TV and then turned the channel.

But now I understand why so many righties are so mistaken about AGW. They watch and listen and read dumb shit like that.

Can you name one piece of proof that the earth is warming?

Remember, Al Gore said that in 2014 there was a 75% chance that there would be no ice in the Arctic during the summer. Last summer there was more ice in the Arctic than ever before recorded.

Also remember, that 2 years after Al Gore became famous with his global warming drumming, he bought a 7 million dollar mansion on the coast at sea level. Al Gore doesn't even believe in global warming it appears.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from tandh:

Can you name one piece of proof that the earth is warming?

Remember, Al Gore said that in 2014 there was a 75% chance that there would be no ice in the Arctic during the summer. Last summer there was more ice in the Arctic than ever before recorded.

Also remember, that 2 years after Al Gore became famous with his global warming drumming, he bought a 7 million dollar mansion on the coast at sea level. Al Gore doesn't even believe in global warming it appears.

You're joking right?

Yes......temp charts. Google "World temperature charts"

No, the Arctic ice is not at record levels. Not even close. Google "Arctic Ice Charts" look in images.

The Arctic summer ice will gone in about tens at the current rate of loss.

Gore'e mansion is NOT on the coast, certainly not near sea level.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Math certainly does not confuse me. Shady application of it, however, confuses everyone.



Yes, because he was insulting to you (as you are to everyone else).




Because, to me, they're not "Experts". Only to the fanatical and brainwashed. When someone asks you a question on a topic you're defending, and you say "google it", that's a cop out. This is a discussion forum, meant for debate.



Yet, you use ad hom in most of your posts. Hmm.

So I guess you don't think your doctor is not an expert either and you don't beleive anything he says when he tells you you need a heart operation. Likewise the climatologists are not experts in their field huh?

I see your problem.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

So I guess you don't think your doctor is not an expert either and you don't beleive anything he says when he tells you you need a heart operation. Likewise the climatologists are not experts in their field huh?

I see your problem.

I certainly see your problem. "I don't see my doctor is not an expert." For someone professing to be so smart, you sure do write/type like a caveman.

The human body is far, far more simple to diagnose than the planet with all it's systems and variables (and age). Only arrogant people believe otherwise.