Noted Hacker Makes Explosive Claims About DNC WikiLeaks

[exGOPer]

you must be paid to write each post of stupidity.
I will take this post as your best attempt at stating you realize you were wrong.

You said DNC didn't let FBI investigate the crime - if that was true then why did the DNC give UNFETTERED access to the server logs? You do realize that this is protocol right?

"The New York Timesfollowed a similar protocol in 2013, when the paper detected a digital intrusion that was ultimately traced back to the Chinese military. While the Times worked with both the FBI and AT&T in tracing the hackers, the newspaper hired Mandiant to do the immediate network analysis work, and had the firm coordinate with law enforcement for subsequent attribution."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/5/14178806/fbi-dnc-hack-server-examined-forensics-russia

So by your logic, did NYT stop the FBI from investigating who hacked them?

Just because you can't research properly or deduce, doesn't make everyone else stupid.

 

[jem]

you are a troll lying moron.. who got this dead ass wrong... again.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

 

[exGOPer]

you are a troll lying moron.. who got this dead ass wrong... again.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

Not giving unfettered access to a law enforcement agency full of Republicans who were in constant contact with Giuliani during the election season is not the same as STOPPING THE FBI from investigating the crime. Why would DNC give all their internal data to Republicans in the FBI led by Republican Comey who cost Clinton the election. FBI got the data to investigate the crime - which is what you were lying about all along.

You are a liar, you said DNC stopped the FBI from investigating the crime when in fact they gave all the data they had JUST LIKE THE NYT and that's PROTOCOL

You can keep quoting to prove that you lied, thanks for that.

 

[jem]

you are a troll who refuses truth...

The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

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and on top of that how do you know what data crowdstrike gave them.
how do you know it was all of it.

 

[exGOPer]

you are a troll who refuses truth...

The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

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and on top of that how do you know what data crowdstrike gave them.
how do you know it was all of it.

Again, you made the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime - NOT GIVING ALL YOUR DATA TO GOVERNMENT doesn't mean they stopped the investigation. Independent intermediaries are PROTOCOL as I quoted above.

You lied and you got caught, if you had said DNC didn't give the servers then you would have been right but that's not what you said.

And 'giving all of data' is another deflection, who cares, DNC didn' stop FBI from investigating as you said otherwise they won't have let Crowdstrike give ANY DATA.

 

[jem]

"Wow... you are nuts... so I will just respond to your first point... where you called me a liar... because your source was buzzfeed... over Comey and CNN... and every other news agency I read at the time.


FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.?

Again, you made the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime - NOT GIVING ALL YOUR DATA TO GOVERNMENT doesn't mean they stopped the investigation. Independent intermediaries are PROTOCOL as I quoted above.

You lied and you got caught, if you had said DNC didn't give the servers then you would have been right but that's not what you said.

And 'giving all of data' is another deflection, who cares, DNC didn' stop FBI from investigating as you said otherwise they won't have let Crowdstrike give ANY DATA.

 

[exGOPer]

"Wow... you are nuts... so I will just respond to your first point... where you called me a liar... because your source was buzzfeed... over Comey and CNN... and every other news agency I read at the time.


FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.?

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Right wing troll says DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime

Then quotes a source that says DNC gave the data and assisted FBI in investigating the crime

Troll moves on to some petty bullshit to pretend he didn't lie.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[jem]

quote from dnc troll...

"You are a liar, you said DNC stopped the FBI from investigating the crime when in fact they gave all the data they had JUST LIKE THE NYT and that's PROTOCOL"


the dnc troll had no basis in fact for saying they gave all their data...
and when asked he is the one who deflects.

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so in fact even though the FBI asked repeatedly investigate the dnc computers... the dnc said no here have this report from crowdstrike.

Dnc troll liar is now pretending that means the dnc allowed the FBI to investigate.


"This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”"

Again, you made the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime - NOT GIVING ALL YOUR DATA TO GOVERNMENT doesn't mean they stopped the investigation. Independent intermediaries are PROTOCOL as I quoted above.

You lied and you got caught, if you had said DNC didn't give the servers then you would have been right but that's not what you said.

And 'giving all of data' is another deflection, who cares, DNC didn' stop FBI from investigating as you said otherwise they won't have let Crowdstrike give ANY DATA.

 

[WeToddDid2]

Again - you said DNC didn't let FBI investigate the crime except your own article says that DNC gave FBI unfettered access to CrowdStrike's forensic analysis.

Now don' try to change the subject with ad hominems.

The FBI never analyzed the computers. They relied on 3rd party information. Crowdstrike was the 3rd party.

First, it relies on ANONYMOUS officials by CNN, how come you are willing to believe that now? LOL

Two, "only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated" - this doesn't bode with YOUR LIE that DNC didn't let investigate the crime

From WIRED

"As The Vergeobserved after consulting with security firms, this arrangement is still business as usual for interactions with law enforcement: private firms conduct the initial study and clear the security threat, while official investigators focus on the actions they should take as a result. And so long as CrowdStrike can supply the raw server data, the FBI doesn't need in-person access to double-check conclusions. Moreover, the FBI was already suspicious of Russian involvement well before CrowdStrike got involved, and had access to information that a private company wouldn't see."

You have to mitigate the threat first and then you let more people in

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/05/fbi-says-dnc-denied-direct-access-to-servers/


Its quoting the CNN report again, Comey never said DNC denied FBI requests AFTER the mitigation of the hack while CrowdStrike was already on the job.

Details are fundamental

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

 

[exGOPer]

The FBI never analyzed the computers. They relied on 3rd party information. Crowdstrike was the 3rd party.”

I am not denying that but that doesn't support the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime which is what jem said. If they wanted to stop the investigation then they wouldn't have let Crowdstrike give FBI any information at all. Even NewYorkTimes followed the same procedure when they were hacked, nobody is saying NYT stopped FBI from investigating the hack.