Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

No, not me says, science. You should try and look at it some time.

You can start here.....if you had been reading my posts you would know this stuff by now.

But I'm glad you took me off ignore?


http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.php

That page you quoted has a chart that goes back to 1860. It states that

The National Climatic Data Center contains the instrumental and paleoclimatic records that can precisely define the nature of climatic fluctuations at time scales of a century and longer.

Whoop-dee-doo....150 years. 4.245 Billion left to examine in order to rule out something else might be happening.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

you were caught lying again... and now you are trying to change the subject.

If you are not misrepresenting facts... why did you post a chart which shows co2 leading temps.

There is nothing wrong with the chart. Prove it wrong.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

more proof that greenhouses gasses cause cooling.

Greenhouse gasses cause warming. Idiot.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

That page you quoted has a chart that goes back to 1860. It states that



Whoop-dee-doo....150 years. 4.245 Billion left to examine in order to rule out something else might be happening. [/B]

So you did not get beyond the first page. Why am I not surprised.

Why are you fixated on the blurry past? Are you living there?

 

[jem]

Correct it shows co2 lags temps. Its you who has been misrepresenting the chart.

How could you possibly believe you are not a liar?
When you lie everyday on this thread.

If you were not misrepresenting science we would all be fine here.

Quote from futurecurrents:

There is nothing wrong with the chart. Prove it wrong.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

Correct it shows co2 lags temps. Its you who has been misrepresenting the chart.

How could you possibly believe you are not a liar?
When you lie everyday on this thread.

If you were not misrepresenting science we would all be fine here.

No it doesn't. Look if that one confuses you here's another one showing the CO2 increase reversing a downtrend.


Because CO2 is a greenhouse gas. You DO understand what that means right?

from NOAA

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from futurecurrents:

...CO2 is a greenhouse gas....

What are you, a robot?

 

[jem]

Are you saying you have data which shows that co2 leads temps?
or are you just a lying asshole.

Because you are either a Nobel prize winner or a troll who just lied his ass off.

nobody but you is claiming that stale outdated chart has co2 leading temps.

We have the monthly data remember.

also if I were to cherry pick points it shows temperature leading co2 up starting in the middle of the chart.

Quote from futurecurrents:

No it doesn't. Look if that one confuses you here's another one showing the CO2 increase reversing a downtrend.


Because CO2 is a greenhouse gas. You DO understand what that means right?

from NOAA

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from futurecurrents:

So you did not get beyond the first page. Why am I not surprised.

Why are you fixated on the blurry past? Are you living there?

Show me where the long term temperature charts are - long term relative to the age of the earth. If I'm trying to make a point about what Tolstoy was trying to say in War and Peace, I don't link to the whole novel and expect you to go read it. I link to the relevant data.

As for why I am fixated on the past, it is completely relevant to the discussion. If you show me a chart that says temperatures have been warming over the last 150 years, and then say it's due to C02 because you show how CO2 has been increasing over the last 150 years, that's correlation, not causation.

I'd like to see a bit more evidence in the data set, since the earth is a helluva lot older than 150 years. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from jem:

Are you saying you have data which shows that co2 leads temps?
or are you just a lying asshole.

Because you are either a Nobel prize winner or a troll who just lied his ass off.

nobody but you is claiming that stale outdated chart has co2 leading temps.

We have the monthly data remember.

also if I were to cherry pick points it shows temperature leading co2 up starting in the middle of the chart.

Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and as levels rise so does temps, as shown in the above charts. To say CO2 leads temps is not quite right as there is essentially no real lead time. The temps rise concurrently with CO2 because CO2 is greenhouse gas.

You DO know what a greenhouse gas is right?

I don't know how to make it simpler for you to understand.