How nice. Thanksgiving greetings from FC.
By the way... I found your self-portrait on the web.
Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.
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How nice. Thanksgiving greetings from FC.
By the way... I found your self-portrait on the web.
Quote from gwb-trading:
An update to US Hurricane Intensity 1900-2012 â no recent trend with hurricane Sandy
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/...00-2012-no-recent-trend-with-hurricane-sandy/
Well something did not look right. So I went to the source site and found this....
"The data shown above includes both hurricanes and post-tropical cyclones which made landfall at hurricane strength (i.e., storms like Sandy)"
So it excludes the vast majority of hurricanes, for no good reason, because most do not make landfall at hurricane strength.
In other words....it's the typical half-truth bullshit that appears on denialist websites like WUWT purely for the purpose of deception and maintaining the status quo of profiteering by the FF industry.
Given how clever the deceptions are on these websites it is not surprising that folks are a little confused.
Like I said, hurricane intensity has increased along with water temperature because of AGW. See the chart I posted above.
Common sense says that the higher the surface temp water, the more energy there is for a hurricane, but not necessarily more of them.
It is theorized that since the arctic is getting warmer the temp differential is becoming less, the jet stream slowing, and so the impetus for tropical cyclone creation is also decreasing.
It is theorized that since the arctic is getting warmer the temp differential is becoming less, the jet stream slowing, and so the impetus for tropical cyclone creation is also decreasing.
The data comes from NOAA - which only provides intensity data for hurricanes and tropical storms which made landfall at hurricane or tropical storm strength, not for all hurricanes. This mirrors data at the NOAA website. Is NOAA now a 'denier website that provides typical half-truth BS'?
Quote from futurecurrents:
Common sense says that the higher the surface temp water, the more energy there is for a hurricane, but not necessarily more of them.
It is theorized that since the arctic is getting warmer the temp differential is becoming less, the jet stream slowing, and so the impetus for tropical cyclone creation is also decreasing.
2006 was the peak of hurricane activity. Why don't you provide a chart that shows out to 2012?
If I could find it, I would post it. Maybe you can find one. One that isn't deceptive bullshit from a denial-machine website for once.
yeah, but isn't it kind of curious how all those who think climate change is man made are left leaning?
and all those who think it is not man made are funded by Exxon?
I only know one climatologist who I think is honest, and he believes climate change is man made, but he also believes if climate change is true, there should be fewer and fewer and weaker and weaker tornados.
And that's what he believes will happen
But it just makes him sick when the communists blame every big tornado on man and climate change
and all those who think it is not man made are funded by Exxon?
I only know one climatologist who I think is honest, and he believes climate change is man made, but he also believes if climate change is true, there should be fewer and fewer and weaker and weaker tornados.
And that's what he believes will happen
But it just makes him sick when the communists blame every big tornado on man and climate change
i think this goes to 2011.
Red line denotes North Atlantic tropical storms; blue line denotes tropical Atlantic sea surface temperature. For comparison, the evolution of Northern Hemisphere mean temperature from NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies is also shown (dotted line)
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v2/n7/fig_tab/nclimate1452_F3.html
Red line denotes North Atlantic tropical storms; blue line denotes tropical Atlantic sea surface temperature. For comparison, the evolution of Northern Hemisphere mean temperature from NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies is also shown (dotted line)
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v2/n7/fig_tab/nclimate1452_F3.html
Man made global warming? Pshh! The left likes to play the âconsensus of scientistsâ game with climate change, and aside from the fact that consensus have nothing do do with scientific fact, the whole notion of a consensus among scientists is a myth anyway.
from the DC:
Not all scientists agree that global warming is man-made. Nearly half of meteorologists and atmospheric science experts donât believe that human activities are the driving force behind global warming, according to a survey by the American Meteorological Society.
The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming.
Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed âliberal political viewsâ were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views.
âPolitical ideology was the factor next most strongly associated with meteorologistsâ views about global warming. This also goes against the idea of scientistsâ opinions being entirely based on objective analysis of the evidence, and concurs with previous studies that have shown scientistsâ opinions on topics to vary along with their political orientation,â writes survey author Neil Stenhouse of George Mason University...
from the DC:
Not all scientists agree that global warming is man-made. Nearly half of meteorologists and atmospheric science experts donât believe that human activities are the driving force behind global warming, according to a survey by the American Meteorological Society.
The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming.
Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed âliberal political viewsâ were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views.
âPolitical ideology was the factor next most strongly associated with meteorologistsâ views about global warming. This also goes against the idea of scientistsâ opinions being entirely based on objective analysis of the evidence, and concurs with previous studies that have shown scientistsâ opinions on topics to vary along with their political orientation,â writes survey author Neil Stenhouse of George Mason University...