North Korea open to talks with United States

Slartibartfast said:
It was sarcasm. By the same NRA logic Obama had no reason to be concerned about inanimate objects.



Notice the Cold War in that timeline? That was when they became untouchable militarily.

They have been capable of devastating the US with biological weapons for a LONG time. They have been capable of a hydrogen bomb for a long time (I believe they could have done this far earlier).

The various Kim's have been playing a game of slow reveal. Kim Jong Un through the programs started by father and grandfather wants to achieve a stable state of nuclear/other M.A.D.

The missiles are a red-herring, a show for the domestic audience and general public. It is not fooling the Pentagon for a moment. Any real threat would come in a container and sit there quietly with a sign saying, "Leave Kim Alone".

He can't win a war but he can keep the US and others at bay with the threat of unacceptable loss. When you have nuclear material and biological weapons, you win a degree of high ground.

So containment, wait and see if some internal revolution or other deals with it. Don't forget that China could have just given him a missile that can survive re-entry etc, they also have skin in the game and are managing him.

They get a massive amount of slave labor from Kim, a lot of 'made in China' goods are made in N-K.

Trump is poking a wasp's nest for political gain, for show to bolster his poor ratings. You are taking a big risk of a nuclear/biological accident for a politician's ratings.
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Ah yes. You would know. The know-it-all of Elitetrader. Slavenbartass!! This guys a spook at the CIA boys !!

Tell you what, Trumps gunna disarm NK one way or another. So you sit tight and watch the fireworks, okay fuckboy.

Thank your Goddamned Drug Dealing Pedo Pimp Bill Clinton for the reactors and plutonium. Cause he's the traitor who started all this.
 
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Tony Stark said:
NK has nukes (that they got while Bush was President) and ICBM'S(that they got while Trump was President). They may want to negotiate now because they are in a much bigger position of strength than they have ever been.They may have also realized what a horrible negotiator Trump is.
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How about we just nuke the north side of the DMZ, EMP the country, and annihilate if they retaliate. You like that hunny?

Or lemmie guess. You would prefer another decade of "strategic diplomacy" because its worked so well!! Either way, we're in a real fucking bind now. And had those assholes you loved off (Clinton/Obama) not equipped North Korea with nuke tech and coddled their malevolent asses, we wouldn't be here. But now we are. And Trumps gunna clean up YOUR MESS.

So enjoy it bitch. Chickens coming home to roost now!!
 
maximumpossiblesuffering said:
Military grade biological weapons, specialized chemicals and their delivery systems, ion proplusion on asteroids, nano-technology are more dangerous than nuclear weapons because you don’t even know you’ve being attacked until it’s too late. As more and more technological interdependencies are created, the failure on a single link can bring down the entire system. Thus cyber wars are a potent threat to the most technologically advanced countries.

We will see people starving with food rotting on the farms types of situations in the future.

Artificial Intelligence will inevitably be used as a weapon to find the non-obvious weak links in a system. The cost to kill ones enemies will be measured in tenths or hundredths of a penny. Additionally, the availability of weapons of mass destruction to smaller groups is likely to increase because of lower cost and greater availability of information. Think CRISPER, the off the shelf DNA editing kit. A small group or maybe even an individual in the future may be able to change the geopolitical landscape all by themselves. They will be hard to discover. Imagine what the the Las Vegas shooter could have done if he had the inclination and access to these technologies and techniques?

Instead schools being affected, they could target a city, an entire religeous group, a political group, a specific organization, etc.

The ability for a small group to use technology as leverage to atempt to advance its agenda is a scary thing to me and is a much more serious issue than school shootings (for example).

It appears the only chance the humans have for long term relevence or survival, or short survival for that matter, is character and tolerance. Do you feel lucky?
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Thats a very interesting post. Wow. I never thought of things that way but I think you're probably right.
 
Here4money said:
He's not, just been watching too much science fiction and consuming Infowars
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It does sound like science fiction, but if the last 100 years are any guide... science fiction oftentimes becomes a reality. I wouldn't dismiss anything at this point.
 
Slartibartfast said:
They have been capable of devastating the US with biological weapons for a LONG time.
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North Korea never has been capable of "devastating" the U.S. with biological weapons, you utter moron. Nor are they even close to having that capability now.

They can't do it with superbugs: "There is no known evidence that Pyongyang is working to engineer designer bugs, U.S. analysts say."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f7c19270879_story.html?utm_term=.43b39293f7f4

They can't do it with conventional biological agents either because the sheer size of the United States -- coupled with the difficulties of widely and effectively disseminating them -- takes "devastation" completely off the table. North Korea may pose a significant biological threat to parts of South Korea and our military on the battlefield, but is far less of a threat to CONUS.
Slartibartfast said:
They have been capable of a hydrogen bomb for a long time (I believe they could have done this far earlier).
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Claims don't equal capability and the only nuclear test that might have been a hydrogen bomb was their September 3, 2017 test estimated at 250 kilotons. But even that's doubtful. First, because of the extreme difficulty and complexity of building one and second, because pure-fission bombs have been built with twice that yield. Currently, only five nations are confirmed to have tested staged thermonuclear weapons, and even Israel isn't one of them.
Slartibartfast said:
The missiles are a red-herring, a show for the domestic audience and general public. It is not fooling the Pentagon for a moment. Any real threat would come in a container and sit there quietly with a sign saying, "Leave Kim Alone".
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As usual you have it backwards. A high-altitude EMP strike which absolutely requires a missile is, by far, the biggest threat that the U.S. faces from North Korea. See report presented to the House that's linked to here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...ould-kill-90-of-all-americans/article/2637349

And what the hell do you know about what the people in the Pentagon think, you troll? You don't even live in the United States, let alone have the "inside scoop" on national security. Delete your account and try again.
 
Poindexter said:
North Korea never has been capable of "devastating" the U.S. with biological weapons, you utter moron. Nor are they even close to having that capability now.

They can't do it with superbugs: "There is no known evidence that Pyongyang is working to engineer designer bugs, U.S. analysts say."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f7c19270879_story.html?utm_term=.43b39293f7f4

They can't do it with conventional biological agents either because the sheer size of the United States -- coupled with the difficulties of widely and effectively disseminating them -- takes "devastation" completely off the table. North Korea may pose a significant biological threat to parts of South Korea and our military on the battlefield, but is far less of a threat to CONUS.

Claims don't equal capability and the only nuclear test that might have been a hydrogen bomb was their September 3, 2017 test estimated at 250 kilotons. But even that's doubtful. First, because of the extreme difficulty and complexity of building one and second, because pure-fission bombs have been built with twice that yield. Currently, only five nations are confirmed to have tested staged thermonuclear weapons, and even Israel isn't one of them.

As usual you have it backwards. A high-altitude EMP strike which absolutely requires a missile is, by far, the biggest threat that the U.S. faces from North Korea. See report presented to the House that's linked to here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...ould-kill-90-of-all-americans/article/2637349

And what the hell do you know about what the people in the Pentagon think, you troll? You don't even live in the United States, let alone have the "inside scoop" on national security. Delete your account and try again.
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You wrote a lot.. I know all about that so why are you telling me? I'm trying to make a few k USD and get to the beach, then a Coco-Loco... and some crab.

I'm on San Andreas island, not the disaster movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Andrés_(island)
 
Poindexter said:
North Korea never has been capable of "devastating" the U.S. with biological weapons, you utter moron. Nor are they even close to having that capability now.

They can't do it with superbugs: "There is no known evidence that Pyongyang is working to engineer designer bugs, U.S. analysts say."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f7c19270879_story.html?utm_term=.43b39293f7f4

They can't do it with conventional biological agents either because the sheer size of the United States -- coupled with the difficulties of widely and effectively disseminating them -- takes "devastation" completely off the table. North Korea may pose a significant biological threat to parts of South Korea and our military on the battlefield, but is far less of a threat to CONUS.

Claims don't equal capability and the only nuclear test that might have been a hydrogen bomb was their September 3, 2017 test estimated at 250 kilotons. But even that's doubtful. First, because of the extreme difficulty and complexity of building one and second, because pure-fission bombs have been built with twice that yield. Currently, only five nations are confirmed to have tested staged thermonuclear weapons, and even Israel isn't one of them.

As usual you have it backwards. A high-altitude EMP strike which absolutely requires a missile is, by far, the biggest threat that the U.S. faces from North Korea. See report presented to the House that's linked to here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...ould-kill-90-of-all-americans/article/2637349

And what the hell do you know about what the people in the Pentagon think, you troll? You don't even live in the United States, let alone have the "inside scoop" on national security. Delete your account and try again.
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Well my late wife's mother runs a defense corporation... but beyond that.. my uncle was a British scientist who worked on the UK H-Bomb project. He got skin cancer from that too along with nearly everyone else on the projects. Check out project "Tube Alloys". Darn Americans taking all the glory, even the Bell X-1 was a fix, the Brits had developed most of the tech, gave it to the US who were after a PR scoop over the Russkies (your people).

Pretty much anything that was done in the 50s is a lot easier now. A.I. is great stuff.

Autistic and a little bit scientifically challenged. I feel bad at the time he wastes trying to respond with anything challenging. It is like an argument with a twelve year old.

But you are still my Pawndexter so I must be patient and help you develop into a Rookdexter.

Did you know that little Donny's uncle John was quite a bright guy? Being a narcissist Donny thinks he knows a lot about nuclear stuff from that association I'm sure.
 
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