No1Trader.com domain for sale

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There is absolutely zero monetization potential from any domain


There must be thousands of people with sites monetized by things like AdSense, whose sole traffic source is SEO (for which domain-names play a significant role), who would disagree rather strongly with this statement?! ;)
 
There must be thousands of people with sites monetized by things like AdSense, whose sole traffic source is SEO (for which domain-names play a significant role), who would disagree rather strongly with this statement?! ;)
Domain name actually plays a negative role in organic Google search rankings since the exact match domain algorithm update in 2012.
There's no one out there in 2016 who puts together a random site, does some magic SEO, and gets people to both visit the site and click on ads. You have to put together a site with real value to users to get and maintain high organic search ranking, and the site has to have compelling content to get them to stay long enough to click an ad. It really needs to get them to return over and over or you need to get literally millions of users since you're making so little per click. Again, a domain name gets you exactly 0% of the way on that journey.
 
Some speculation is destructive; they're not all equal.



I can see that point of view, but in my experience buying up domain names in bulk ahead of legitimate people and businesses, pricing them out of their reach is a systemic problem, not harmless speculation. Not only do they not add any value in their intermediary role, but domain names are a vital part of how the Internet functions as a means of communication. Domains aren't collectible goods or even comparable to land in that respect, because two plots of land can be functionally equivalent, whereas each domain name is unique: if my last name's taken, it's taken.

It's a bit more like if some people decided to (and had access to) reserve and park most phone numbers in a given area code (or a whole country) and resell the rights for $10K each. It's parasitic and interferes with the proper operation of the phone system without added value. The phone is an essential service and these days, I'd say the Internet's close to that. In the phone analogy, I guess regular people would end up getting double-long phone numbers through re-dialing switchboards of some sort, and the few with enough money to throw away would get direct numbers from the scalpers. Oh wow, that reminds me of my childhood nemesis in the 1980s: rotary dialing! :banghead: Still not a perfect analogy because phone numbers are all functionally equivalent, being 10 digits long, so as long as squatters didn't buy them all, the cheap ones would remain as good as the scalped ones. (Sure there are vanity numbers, but those are gimmicks not affecting length and thus barely improving user friendliness.)

Back on my argument that cybersquatting is a systemic issue, let's not forget the impact on ergonomics for the entire Internet: domain names are probably on average at least 20% longer because of the sheer volume of names parked as "investments" out of reach of companies and content producers. From a macro perspective, every single user loses. (I'm surprised ICANN never cared about that.) Think of all the typo versions you'd need to reserve if you had to settle for "go2e-mailapp.com" vs "mail.com". :vomit:

(I have a 5-letter domain and already see people typo many variations... Got a cheque for "e-marce" once, I kid you not. How the client got there from "iMars" written everywhere including on the invoice is a hell of a stretch. Surprised the bank didn't mind.)

So anyway, hoard gold or art as much as you want, but don't clog up an essential service...


Not heard this much nonsense since the last meeting of "workers unite" in shanghai.
 
There must be thousands of people with sites monetized by things like AdSense, whose sole traffic source is SEO (for which domain-names play a significant role), who would disagree rather strongly with this statement?! ;)


You are correct. Guy i know earns millions from domain names he corraled in the 90's.
 
Domain name actually plays a negative role in organic Google search rankings since the exact match domain algorithm update in 2012.


Sorry, but this simply isn't true: what you're thinking of, regarding the SEO-penalty, applies only to exact-match domains specifically designed to fool Google's algorithms, as very openly explained on Matt Cutts' Google blog, in articles by him, and on Google's own help pages.

Domain names are still hugely relevant to SEO.
 
Sorry, but this simply isn't true: what you're thinking of, regarding the SEO-penalty, applies only to exact-match domains specifically designed to fool Google's algorithms, as very openly explained on Matt Cutts' Google blog, in articles by him, and on Google's own help pages.

Domain names are still hugely relevant to SEO.
How much SEO have you done? Have you ever put together a site in a field as crowded as this one and ended up above the fold on organic search for any term? Or even in the top 50 for that matter? Do you seriously think that you're going to get $5000 worth of SEO optimization out of the miniscule move that the domain name is going to have on SEO rank (which could very well be negative)? Do you realize how much AdSense ads pay out, what the click rate is, and how much traffic you'd have to drive to your site, as well as the quality of that traffic, to make up for $5,000 you paid for that domain name. In no business case anywhere will that pencil out for "No1Trader.com" or anything like it, and certainly not when compared to the many very similar domain names that others pointed out are available for simply the registration fees. Sorry, but if you think it's that easy than you've clearly never done it!
 
You are correct. Guy i know earns millions from domain names he corraled in the 90's.
I'm going to say he's either BSing you or oversimplifying how he makes money. Do you have any of the URLs that he's making millions off of? I'm willing to bet he either sold them to companies who are actually selling things or producing content on those sites (back when they thought domain names were valuable), or he's selling things and producing content on those sites. In either case the profit came from selling things or producing profits, not the domain name. Again, would love to see an URL?
 
I'm going to say he's either BSing you or oversimplifying how he makes money. Do you have any of the URLs that he's making millions off of? I'm willing to bet he either sold them to companies who are actually selling things or producing content on those sites (back when they thought domain names were valuable), or he's selling things and producing content on those sites. In either case the profit came from selling things or producing profits, not the domain name. Again, would love to see an URL?

Well, there's no way I can say for certain, but I believe one he owned is Pets.com
 
Do you seriously think that you're going to get $5000 worth of SEO optimization out of the miniscule move that the domain name is going to have on SEO rank


You haven't even read the thread, have you? I was among the first, on the first page, to point out that "thousands" for this domain is living in a dreamworld. (I valued it at about $100-$200, max.)

Time for me to unsubscribe from all this argumentative nonsense.
 
Well, there's no way I can say for certain, but I believe one he owned is Pets.com
Good example even if he didn't own that specific one. Back in 1998, no-one really knew or understood how the internet worked and we didn't have good search engines people would actually randomly type "pets.com" into their browser if they wanted to find out something about pets. Company's had mad VC money they were throwing at what later turned out to be positively horrible ideas and the few people who had snapped up domain names were able to sell them to the pets.com's of the world for crazy amounts. Flash forward two years to 2000 and pets.com is bankrupt. Flash forward 20 years to today and pets.com is a site making money because of the brand and fact they sell pet supplies and while their domain is part of their brand it's not what they earn their revenue from. I can tell you that No1Pets.com is worth exactly nothing on it's own, nor any other variation on pets.com. It's not 1999 any more, domains that haven't already had a brand built around them are on their own worthless and everyone knows it.
The ultimate irony is the the most recognizable and arguably valuable URL in the world is a made-up word derived from the word for 10^100, or as we know it today, google.com.
 
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