No "natural" herd immunity - multiple patients catch COVID-19 with symptoms a second time

[gwb-trading]

We are now well into the coast to coast mass exposure which has occurred and is occurring. Lockdowns being lifted or eased, heavy holiday weekend with little to no social distancing, millions out and about. If infection rate is still as aggressive as it was weeks ago then we should start seeing a very sharp spike in hospitalizations followed by a increase in deaths. We're a solid 5/6 days in already. Very few more days will tell the tale.

Actually the best examples would be the COVID results for people who attended mass events with no social distancing like the pool party in the Ozarks or the 4000 at the NASCAR race. There should be a spike in positive cases associated with these superspreader events.

Most people in the U.S. followed social distancing guidelines for the Memorial Day weekend which ended only 2 days ago, not 5 or 6. Expecting some mass spike in hospitalizations and deaths when the huge majority in the U.S. did not change their behavior is simple not going to happen. Focus on the results from events that did not follow the guidelines.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Actually the best examples would be the COVID results for people who attended mass events with no social distancing like the pool party in the Ozarks or the 4000 at the NASCAR race. There should be a spike in positive cases associated with these superspreader events.

Most people in the U.S. followed social distancing guidelines for the Memorial Day weekend which ended only 2 days ago, not 5 or 6. Expecting some mass spike in hospitalizations and deaths when the huge majority in the U.S. did not change their behavior is simple not going to happen. Focus on the results from events that did not follow the guidelines.

Exposure for holiday weekend began Friday night, Saturday in earnest. We're easily 5 days in. Social distancing was not widely practiced over the weekend, did you not see all the beach and event pictures? If no sharp spike in hospitalizations and deaths by first weekend of June we are clear of the worst of it, for now and through the summer. Late fall, early winter will be another story.

 

[smallfil]

We are now well into the coast to coast mass exposure which has occurred and is occurring. Lockdowns being lifted or eased, heavy holiday weekend with little to no social distancing, millions out and about. If infection rate is still as aggressive as it was weeks ago then we should start seeing a very sharp spike in hospitalizations followed by a increase in deaths. We're a solid 5/6 days in already. Very few more days will tell the tale.

At some point, fear mongering and hysteria will be exposed for the lies that they are. Any stats they put out purposely, manipulated to put their spin into it and justify the continued lockdowns by the Democrat governors. There will be a huge backlash to this as the public realizes the extreme liberal Democrat governors caused them to lose their jobs permanently and needlessly, to score a few petty, political points.

 

[CaptainObvious]

At some point, fear mongering and hysteria will be exposed for the lies that they are. Any stats they put out purposely, manipulated to put their spin into it and justify the continued lockdowns by the Democrat governors. There will be a huge backlash to this as the public realizes the extreme liberal Democrat governors caused them to lose their jobs permanently and needlessly, to score a few petty, political points.

We're going to see just how desperate the democratic Machine is to win this election. The longer they extend shutdowns, the more desperate they are. Huge gamble they are taking with people's lives and livelihoods. Can't see the logic. They win with this tactic and they rule over an ash heap of an economy and blaming it all on Trump will wear quite thin in short order as people are losing everything they have.

 

[gwb-trading]

Exposure for holiday weekend began Friday night, Saturday in earnest. We're easily 5 days in. Social distancing was not widely practiced over the weekend, did you not see all the beach and event pictures? If no sharp spike in hospitalizations and deaths by first weekend of June we are clear of the worst of it, for now and through the summer. Late fall, early winter will be another story.

We may just be seeing the beginning of your spike....

COVID-19 in NC: Record number of hospitalizations reported by NCDHHS
https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-ca...umber-of-hospitalizations-reported-by-ncdhhs/

 

[CaptainObvious]

We may just be seeing the beginning of your spike....

COVID-19 in NC: Record number of hospitalizations reported by NCDHHS
https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-ca...umber-of-hospitalizations-reported-by-ncdhhs/

If it happens it happens, we need to know sooner than later what we're up against, and if some sort of further lockdown is warranted. If it does happen in a sustained way then we are in the shit for sure. At that point really tough decisions need to be made. What is manageable worst case scenario, accepting a higher death toll to maintain some sort of economic strength. What we already know is we can dramatically reduce deaths by keeping sick people out of nursing homes. We'll know in ten days or less what our next move should be. I see that as a good thing.

 

[gwb-trading]

Let's see how many people get sick after this superspreader event... just need one person showing up with COVID to infect many others.

Person who attended Lake of the Ozarks Memorial Day gathering tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/ozarks-missouri-party-coronavirus/index.html

A person who partied in the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, area on Memorial Day weekend has tested positive for coronavirus -- and was possibly infectious over the holiday weekend.

The Boone County resident visited multiple bars on May 24 and 25, according to the Camden County Health Department. They "developed illness" on Sunday and were possibly infectious before then.

Video from that weekend shows partiers crowded together in a pool at Backwater Jacks Bar and Grill in Osage Beach on Saturday, according to Scott Pasmore, an anchor for CNN affiliate KTVK, who shot the footage.

The partier went to Backwater Jacks between approximately 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. local time and again shortly before 10 p.m. local, according to health officials.

The person -- who was not identified by officials -- also went to Shady Gators and Lazy Gators and Buffalo Wild Wings, officials said.

About 12,700 people in Missouri have tested positive for coronavirus and about 730 have died from Covid-19 infection, according to state data.

(More at above url)

 

[jem]

so first of all... super spreaders are 1 individual.. do you understand that yet?
Its not the event where lots of people are at risk. Its where one person actually gives the virus to many people. You got this wrong last weekend... do you understand that yet

have you read the links I gave you... here is a lefty site for you...


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/super-spreader-coronavirus/

"Super-spreading events "occur when a single person infects a large number of other people — sometimes 10, 20, sometimes even more in one setting," saidDr. Justin Lessler, an associate professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Other examples of super-spreading events during the coronavirus pandemic include 15 cases stemming from one person at multiple family gatherings in Chicago and more than 100 cases tracing back to multiple South Korean nightclubs that were visited by a man who later tested positive for the virus."

So we are going to have to see how many people this one person effected before this can be deemed a super spreader event.

Got that yet? It may. I may not be a super spreader event.

Let's see how many people get sick after this superspreader event... just need one person showing up with COVID to infect many others.

Person who attended Lake of the Ozarks Memorial Day gathering tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/ozarks-missouri-party-coronavirus/index.html

A person who partied in the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, area on Memorial Day weekend has tested positive for coronavirus -- and was possibly infectious over the holiday weekend.

The Boone County resident visited multiple bars on May 24 and 25, according to the Camden County Health Department. They "developed illness" on Sunday and were possibly infectious before then.

Video from that weekend shows partiers crowded together in a pool at Backwater Jacks Bar and Grill in Osage Beach on Saturday, according to Scott Pasmore, an anchor for CNN affiliate KTVK, who shot the footage.

The partier went to Backwater Jacks between approximately 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. local time and again shortly before 10 p.m. local, according to health officials.

The person -- who was not identified by officials -- also went to Shady Gators and Lazy Gators and Buffalo Wild Wings, officials said.

About 12,700 people in Missouri have tested positive for coronavirus and about 730 have died from Covid-19 infection, according to state data.

(More at above url)

 

[gwb-trading]

so first of all... super spreaders are 1 individual.. do you understand that yet.
have you read the links I gave you... here is a left site for you...


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/super-spreader-coronavirus/

Super-spreading events "occur when a single person infects a large number of other people — sometimes 10, 20, sometimes even more in one setting," saidDr. Justin Lessler, an associate professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Other examples of super-spreading events during the coronavirus pandemic include 15 cases stemming from one person at multiple family gatherings in Chicago and more than 100 cases tracing back to multiple South Korean nightclubs that were visited by a man who later tested positive for the virus.

So we are going to have to see how many people this one person effected before this can be deemed a super spreader event.

Got that yet?

For COVID super-spreaders are not one individual - despite your claims, For COVDI superspreaders are events at designated locations at particular times where the disease was widely spread due to the presence of one or more infected individuals.

The single person is infecting a large number of people because they attended a super-spreader event. If the infected person just stayed home they would not infect anyone.

 

[jem]

As you now have learned, the superspreader is the individual(s) who spread the virus to a large number of people. The event is where and when he or she did the spreading to many people.

We know you the term incorrectly because the Lake of the Ozarks Memorial day event is not yet a super spreader event. (an appellation you gave it which it has not yet earned.)

We have to see how many people were infected.

For COVID super-spreaders are not one individual - despite your claims, For COVDI superspreaders are events at designated locations at particular times where the disease was widely spread due to the presence of one or more infected individuals.

The single person is infecting a large number of people because they attended a super-spreader event. If the infected person just stayed home they would not infect anyone.