No "natural" herd immunity - multiple patients catch COVID-19 with symptoms a second time

[Cuddles]

According to whom? .3% of anything should not dictate policy and the fact that it might, or does, simply demonstrates the politics of it all. Doomers are chasing total immunity while calling it herd immunity. Goal posts continue to change. Political pure and simple. Ten days and the hysteria must end or be proved correct. Body count dictates everything at this point. No bodies piling up equals threat has burned itself out.

Not if the numbers are getting cooked

 

[CaptainObvious]

We actually have the Iceland study showing only 50% of those infected have symptoms, no need to make shit up

There are multiple studies showing various results, all meaningless at this point. Body count rules the day and if all you have in another conspiracy theory to argue that number then any debate is also meaningless, which is just what politics is all about, endless and meaningless discussion towards a political objective.

 

[Arnie]

80% of the infected do not have symptoms? At all? Ever? That is merely you projecting. Most people show symptoms at some point even if they are minor.

The infected may not have symptoms for 3 to 13 days before the symptoms appear -- which merely serves to make COVID-19 more infectious since people are still out & about spreading the disease before they feel sick.

Iceland tested 10% of their population (randomly through national phone book) and 50% of those who tested positive were asymptomatic.

CDC estimates that 35% are asymptomatic and never develop any symptoms.
The actual numbers range from 20% to 50%

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...-of-those-infected-with-covid-19-asymptomatic

 

[gwb-trading]

Iceland tested 10% of their population (randomly through national phone book) and 50% of those who tested positive were asymptomatic.

CDC estimates that 35% are asymptomatic and never develop any symptoms.
The actual numbers range from 20% to 50%

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...-of-those-infected-with-covid-19-asymptomatic

Good luck with your fantasy 20% to 50% in Iceland. Let's take a look at their facts about testing.

https://time.com/5831580/iceland-coronavirus-tests/

"Iceland’s testing yielded new leads for scientists about how the virus behaves. Early results suggested 0.6 percent of the population were “silent carriers” of the disease with no symptoms or only a mild cough and runny nose."

 

[CaptainObvious]

Good luck with your fantasy 20% to 50% in Iceland. Let's take a look at their facts about testing.

https://time.com/5831580/iceland-coronavirus-tests/

"Iceland’s testing yielded new leads for scientists about how the virus behaves. Early results suggested 0.6 percent of the population were “silent carriers” of the disease with no symptoms or only a mild cough and runny nose."

Meaningless. Unless you test every single person in the country, all on the very same day, you have absolutely no idea how many people are infected with no or minimal symptoms. No symptoms today, symptoms tomorrow, it's changing day by day. The only things we can monitor with accuracy is people hospitalized and the dead. Everything else is a guess and so far the guessing of the experts has been so inaccurate as to render them unless for anything other than pushing a shutdown agenda.

 

[gwb-trading]

Meaningless. Unless you test every single person in the country, all on the very same day, you have absolutely no idea how many people are infected with no or minimal symptoms. No symptoms today, symptoms tomorrow, it's changing day by day. The only things we can monitor with accuracy is people hospitalized and the dead. Everything else is a guess and so far the guessing of the experts has been so inaccurate as to render them unless for anything other than pushing a shutdown agenda.

Infection Fatality Rate and the number of infections in a population is always an estimate.... a best guess. This is why known information such as Case Fatality Rate and the Number of Cases is used in modelling and understanding a disease --- not infections which is just a guesstimate.

 

[destriero]

 

[wildchild]

Infection Fatality Rate and the number of infections in a population is always an estimate.... a best guess. This is why known information such as Case Fatality Rate and the Number of Cases is used in modelling and understanding a disease --- not infections which is just a guesstimate.

You are still posting this non-sense?

 

[Spike Trader]

Sailors on sidelined carrier get virus for second time


South Korea sees biggest jump in virus cases in seven weeks


South Korea reported its biggest jump in coronavirus infections in seven weeks on Wednesday, driven by a fresh cluster at an e-commerce warehouse on Seoul’s outskirts, as millions more pupils went back to school.

The country has been held up as a global model in how to curb the virus and has rushed to contain new infections as life returns to normal.

But officials announced 40 new cases Wednesday — taking its total to 11,265 — with most new infections from the densely populated Seoul metropolitan area.

It was the largest increase since 53 infections were announced on April 8.

An outbreak at a warehouse of e-commerce firm Coupang in Bucheon, west of Seoul, has seen 36 cases so far, the KCDC added.


“It is suspected that the basic regulations were not enforced at the warehouse,” said vice health minister Kim Gang-lip.

“If quarantine rules are not implemented at workplaces, it could lead to a dreadful result of a mass infection.”

 

[CaptainObvious]

We are now well into the coast to coast mass exposure which has occurred and is occurring. Lockdowns being lifted or eased, heavy holiday weekend with little to no social distancing, millions out and about. If infection rate is still as aggressive as it was weeks ago then we should start seeing a very sharp spike in hospitalizations followed by a increase in deaths. We're a solid 5/6 days in already. Very few more days will tell the tale.