No burkini's allowed

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That's right. Zero tolerance for those hate suits.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/24/french-police-make-woman-remove-burkini-on-nice-beach

Photographs have emerged of armed French police confronting a woman on a beach and making her remove some of her clothing as part of a controversial ban on the burkini.

Authorities in several French towns have implemented bans on the Burkini,which covers the body and head, citing concerns about religious clothing in the wake of recent terrorist killings in the country.

The images of police confronting the woman in Nice on Tuesday show at least four police officers standing over a woman who was resting on the shore at the town’s Promenade des Anglais, the scene of last month’s Bastille Day lorry attack.

After they arrive, she appears to remove a blue long-sleeved tunic, although one of the officers appears to take notes or issue an on-the-spot fine.

The photographs emerged as a mother of two also told on Tuesday how she had been fined on the beach in nearby Cannes wearing leggings, a tunic and a headscarf.

Her ticket, seen by French news agency AFP, read that she was not wearing “an outfit respecting good morals and secularism”.
 
I am against this muslim invasion, as most here know. However, I do think this kind of thing is upsetting. I can understand saying you can't drive a car covered head to toe or get your drivers license picture like that or be totally covered going through airport security. But going to the beach? This seems to me to trample on both religious freedom and personal freedom.

The obvious solution is not to admit people to your country who will refuse to assimilate, ie 95% of muslims. And it also seems to me the authorities in france have enough real terrorism to deal with that they could find better ways to spend their time.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
I am against this muslim invasion, as most here know. However, I do think this kind of thing is upsetting. I can understand saying you can't drive a car covered head to toe or get your drivers license picture like that or be totally covered going through airport security. But going to the beach? This seems to me to trample on both religious freedom and personal freedom.

The obvious solution is not to admit people to your country who will refuse to assimilate, ie 95% of muslims. And it also seems to me the authorities in france have enough real terrorism to deal with that they could find better ways to spend their time.
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This is a shady area. Is Islam merely a religion or is it a political doctrine? I say it is the latter, so it's not covered by religious freedom. Then you have to keep in mind how intimidating those suits are for native citizens. In a country like Marocco they are forbidden in public swimming pools. Muslims in the West prefer to wear them to send a message, namely we are not assimilating.
 
I do get the message they are sending, and I agree that islam is a political system with religious overtones. But it opens the door. What if London passed a law that Hassidic jews could not wear traditional dress?

It just seems to me they are going after the wrong end of the problem. Maybe they should be cracking down on extremist mosques.
 
The first step should be to acknowledge Islam is a political ideology. We find it perfectly acceptable to forbid Nazi symbols and ideology. Treat islam accordingly.
 
You do, we don't. Freedom of expression is a core constitutional value here. Unless of course it annoys some PC-protected group, then you lose your job and are followed around by internet lynch mobs.

We did ban the communist party. I have argued we could ban islam on the same grounds. It is a political philosophy that is utterly incompatible with our Constitutional rights. When Dr. Ben Carson suggested the same thing, the media's collective heads exploded.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
You do, we don't. Freedom of expression is a core constitutional value here. Unless of course it annoys some PC-protected group, then you lose your job and are followed around by internet lynch mobs.

We did ban the communist party. I have argued we could ban islam on the same grounds. It is a political philosophy that is utterly incompatible with our Constitutional rights. When Dr. Ben Carson suggested the same thing, the media's collective heads exploded.
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Still that is the way to go.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
You do, we don't. Freedom of expression is a core constitutional value here. Unless of course it annoys some PC-protected group, then you lose your job and are followed around by internet lynch mobs.

We did ban the communist party. I have argued we could ban islam on the same grounds. It is a political philosophy that is utterly incompatible with our Constitutional rights. When Dr. Ben Carson suggested the same thing, the media's collective heads exploded.
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When did we ban the communist party???

http://www.cpusa.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA

Ben Carson said he did not think "Muslims were fit"...well Obama doesn't think Trump is fit.
 
oldnemesis said:
When did we ban the communist party???
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The Communist Control Act (68 Stat. 775, 50 U.S.C. 841-844) is a piece of United States federal legislation, signed into law by President Dwight Eisenhower on 24 August 1954, which outlaws the Communist Party of the United States and criminalizes membership in, or support for the Party or "Communist-action" organizations and defines evidence to be considered by a jury in determining participation in the activities, planning, actions, objectives, or purposes of such organizations.[1]
 
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