Nikki Haley announces failed presidential bid

I think Kristi Noem is more likely to be VP. Most hardcore Republicans consider Haley a RINO and would be disappointed with her selection. MTG has also been floated, but I don’t think DeSantis or Trump want the baggage she brings. They want somebody hated by liberals, but not seen as completely crazy.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Yeah. I dunno. Trump is the one that needs to be careful.

When he did his full attack dog thing in the primary the last time around he was at the top of his game and his supporters backed him up when he talked about ugly Carley Fiorina and Ted Cruz's wife were. Not sure there is an appetite for that sort of thing now or for bashing DeSantis or Pompeo or Pence in low-life ways. Disagreeing with them is fine but that is not enough red meat for Trump.

It's a delicate dance. They do not need to fear him but they also do not want to go for the bait and try to go after him. Trump is very vulnerable this time around to getting caught in an undertow wherein he starts to fall in the polls but deals with it by trying to get nastier and nastier with his opponents to bring them down. Again, not sure there is an appetite for that. On the issues yes. Every single solitary observer-pundit-poll makes it clear to Trump that he has many supporters who want him but without the drama. But Trump's response in effect is: "I will just give them more drama, they'll love it." Okay whatever. Go for it.
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Yeah, I don’t agree. The Republican base is as mean as ever. Calling Haley ugly doesn’t stick because quite frankly she isn’t ugly.

The issues though, oh yeah, Trump knows his base is the poorly educated who resent success but are dependent on things like social security. And that will be his attack and edge in the race. Republicans like Haley are historically against working class issues like entitlements and unions and Trump will mop the floor with them because they have no edge on him with things like immigration.

Anyway, Haley is a Veep candidate, not a presidential candidate. What matters is whether or not she is anti-Trump enough that she wouldn’t be his VP.
 
UsualName said:
Yeah, I don’t agree. The Republican base is as mean as ever. Calling Haley ugly doesn’t stick because quite frankly she isn’t ugly.

The issues though, oh yeah, Trump knows his base is the poorly educated who resent success but are dependent on things like social security. And that will be his attack and edge in the race. Republicans like Haley are historically against working class issues like entitlements and unions and Trump will mop the floor with them because they have no edge on him with things like immigration.

Anyway, Haley is a Veep candidate, not a presidential candidate. What matters is whether or not she is anti-Trump enough that she wouldn’t be his VP.
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UsualName said:
I caught bits and pieces of the speech and I don’t think it was too bad and she is top tier in the Veep-stakes.

The only problem is Trump is already unloading on her. She has to toe that line if she doesn’t want to end up like lil Marco and lying Ted.

Now Haley is attacking Biden where it hurts, right in the age and added a lil dig at Trump on competency too. Yeah, brings back memories of man, woman, person, camera, tv.

Anyway, we all know Haley can’t beat Trump.
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I will admit she is solid and comes off straight forward. I just was hoping for something other than recycled tlaking points..

I believe in America that lifts up everyone...
Our best days are still ahead of us...
I will fight for working class families...
I will fight for your children's education...

yawn
 
kmgilroy89 said:
I think Kristi Noem is more likely to be VP. Most hardcore Republicans consider Haley a RINO and would be disappointed with her selection. MTG has also been floated, but I don’t think DeSantis or Trump want the baggage she brings. They want somebody hated by liberals, but not seen as completely crazy.
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MTG would be worse than choosing Pailin haha
 
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