Netherlans abandons multiculturalism

Add the Netherlands to this growing list. Maybe if we elect someone in 2012 who cares more about this country than those invading it, we can join them.

State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

France's Sarkozy: Multiculturalism Has Failed
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/February/Frances-Sarkozy-Multiculturalism-Has-Failed/

Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

Quote from Mav88:

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2219/netherlands-abandons-multiculturalism


The question is why do we even support such obviously stupid liberal ideas in the first place? Sadly enough multiculturalism is now entrenched within the american education and political institutions. It is amazing how the successful people of the european west are so intent on destroying themselves from within.
 
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Has the US ever really been a 'melting pot'?

US (and Canadian) hsitories are unique, large land areas flooded with mostly Europeans, the most advanced economic and technological cultures on the planet at the time. Europeans for some reason have assimilated well to a common culture here in the states, but have a harder time in the old countries. Probably the glue that made it happen was plenty of space and prosperity, but there was a dominance from northern European cultures- which are the most successful of the Europeans.

It isn't really hard to understand. Form a new country and fill it with mostly Germans and British. Guess what cultures the new country will resemble? Take a second identical new country and fill it with Pakistanis, Nigerians, and Mexicans. The left will insist that the second country should be as economically successful as the first, I think we all know the correct answer.

Blacks and whites has not melted yet, maybe never will, due to a race-cultural divide and huge resentment. Hispanics from the south certainly haven't melted in, and they seem hostile to the idea. Mexicans really don't like american whites to begin with so asking them to be like us is strange to me. The two largest non european immigrant groups, some 1/3 of the population, have not assimilated yet we consider the US to be a successful melting pot?

The Amish are an example of a group that hasn't blended in due to religion. But since they don't blow up other people, don't demand special group rights and government programs, stay out of the news, and are generally law abiding- we get along. The truest sense of liberty at work. There is also an encouraging mixing of far east asians and whites, I think due to mutual respect.

Given world history, most all multicultural societies don't work. Canada almost split several times and they are a very advanced nation. The evidence against multiculturalism is enormous yet here we are in 2011 with the huge leftist-humanist lie foisted upon the american people is that all cultures are equally valuable and that it is a strength to live and work alongside just about anyone, even if they hate you. It is the white man's burden to accept all comers no matter how primitive and hostile, and by use of some tortured logic it is implied we in fact owe them something. So tragic that the truth of the matter will sort itself out by having to live the consequences.


You give respect, you get it back. That is the problem, a society riddled with disrespect and finger-pointing. The Amish are an admirable people.
 
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... persistant non assimilation by the immigrant groups. ...

do you think it is easy for the immigrants to assimilate into a different culture and language?

do you go out of your way trying to help them to assimilate?

or do you make them build a f*king railroad for a bag of potatoes?
 
You give respect, you get it back. That is the problem, a society riddled with disrespect and finger-pointing. The Amish are an admirable people.


The disrespect starts with illegal immigration, or complete disrespect for our laws. It is incumbant upon the newcomer to adapt to the host, not vice versa. It's called common courtesy and the amazing lack of it shows just how hostile the new immigrants are. Imagine someone coming to your home without an invitation then demanding you make special accomodations for them. These are some rude folks were are talking about here.

The Amish are not admirable in my opinion, they have done absolutely nothing for this country. All I wanted to point out is that religous insular groups can peacefully exist who won't assimilate, but it is because they try and be respectful to the host culture.
 
do you think it is easy for the immigrants to assimilate into a different culture and language?

do you go out of your way trying to help them to assimilate?

or do you make them build a f*king railroad for a bag of potatoes?

How difficult it is is irrelevant, unless they were forced to come then it is entirely a problem of their own making. It is not my job to assimilate them, it is their job to become an american like most every other immigrant wave before them.

Making someone build a railroad for potatoes would be slavery, something that no longer exists in the US. The answer is then no, because I will not and can not.

If someone actually offered to work for potatoes, I'm not sure what I would do. Anyway you do miss the larger point entirely. The question is not only will we get along, but what kind of society are these new immigrants going to create? look to Mexico and see your answer.
 
US, Canada, W. Europe have the problem of aging population who are non-breeders. The solution is to let younger immigrant to come in to fill the void. It so happen that the best immigrants they can get happen to be of different cultures. The risk that they won't assimilate fast enough or deep enough is part of the gamble.

I don't separate the immigrants into legal and illegal. they are basically the same. the illegals are ALLOWED to get into the country, at least this is the way it is in US.
 
I do seperate legals from illegals. People who respect laws and people who don't, it should be the first thing you care about when considering new people.

The reason illegals are allowed is that there are now enough liberals and mexicans in the US to politically stop any attempt at closing the flow. If you try and do such a thing, out fly the racism accusations.

It is now well known that these mexicans are not the answer to demographics. In fact they make the problem worse by causing further drain on bloated social welfare budgets. Cucumber pickers and drywallers simply do not create enough wealth to solve the aging issue or even pay for themselves. Mexicans will not create the sort of wealthy and dynamic economy to pay the bills, just check out mexico.
 
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Cucumber pickers and drywallers simply do not create enough wealth to solve the aging issue or even pay for themselves.

If things continue as they are the Cucumber picking and Drywalling professions might become pretty attractive. :D
 
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The reason illegals are allowed is that there are now enough liberals and mexicans in the US to politically stop any attempt at closing the flow...

have not they ALWAYS been allowed in? suddenly now there is a problem because there are too many liberals and mexicans. was this the case 10-20 years ago?
 
Nope and you are right, republicans like reagan and bush are to blame for the past. If however you tried to stop it today, then you are branded a racist vigilante.

It's too late, we'll have this experiment whether we like it or not. What makes the problem so insanely worse is that now we have social welfare programs and multicultural liberalism telling these people that they should not have to change their culture to adapt and that they deserve full social welfare. What a fracking catastrophe. Muticulturalism will end the USA, maybe by design?

I want to meet the fool in Washington who thought 50 million mexicans is the solution to this:

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