".NET beats JVM any time"...

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I would not say that at all. Visual Studio has some fine and unique features.

Both are fine IDE's.
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Exactly...and can we end these ENDLESS "geek-wars" ?
My goodness, no wonder why no one wants to hire an American programmer today...all they do is....FIGHT.
 
lol, what do you expect to get out from the thread topic. Of course it will zero in on the ups and downs of different programming languages, (hopefully less IDE talk). Oh, wait, wasn't it you who brought up IDEs? Talking about IDEs is pretty useless given that some of the smartest programmers who create the coolest stuff code on command line type editors and use command line compilers. I love VS plus ReSharper but it has zero bearing on my choosing a particular language over another. You have to focus on the task at hand and then you choose the weapons that are capable of reaching the target.

I am not American but I find your last comment absurd and a testimony to your being childish.

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Exactly...and can we end these ENDLESS "geek-wars" ?
My goodness, no wonder why no one wants to hire an American programmer today...all they do is....FIGHT.
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On ignore, your ramblings only show someone who claims expertise in a particular area but actually demonstrates to the public at large that he just copy/pasted out of Wiki.

I am really only couple more idiotic post reads away from leaving ET for good. Even the technical and programming focused threads are now taken over by wannabees and "traders" who most likely failed at all approaches they tried and now seek their hail in believing they will be the next algo and systematic trader. I remember when I googled posts on ET years ago that covered binary formats and storage of tick based data. Those days where there were people here with true expertise are long over. Sad but mostly true.

Quote from comintel:

Why do you continually attempt to insult and discredit other posters and trivialize their comments? It is very disappointing.

Stop it. Let's try to have a civilized conversation.

I mentioned several things.

I do not have the time to explain in detail what Perspectives are in detail in Eclipse. Since there is nothing comparable in what you know, Visual Studio, you would not be familiar with them and therefore fail to see their advantages. Therefore,you discount their value. I understand that. Very briefly, they are configurations of Windows suitable for different tasks.

Since an IDE is all about Interactive Development, it is beyond me how anyone could claim the richness and usability of the user interface is an irrelevancy. To the contrary, it is a large part of the usability of the UI.

The number of menu functions may very roughly reflect (not necessarily but it does in this case) the greater functionality offered in Eclipse. Things like style analyzers, data base schema analyzers and generators, etc. I know that some of these may be available in some Visual Studio extensions or versions also. I am asserting that more come with Eclipse. It is not provable one way or the other here. People need to try both and see.

I also mentioned the lack of local History in Visual Studio. If you look at stack overflow or search the web, you will find that this is a highly-requested feature for people coming from Eclipse to Visual Studio who cannot get over its absence in Visual Studio.

I do not have time to justify these in depth here. I suggest people just take these as things to look into and try both Eclipse and Visual Studio.
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On ignore, your ramblings only show someone who claims expertise in a particular area but actually demonstrates to the public at large that he just copy/pasted out of Wiki.
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I have never looked at what (if anything) Wikipedia says on the subject. All of what I said was based solely on many years of personal experience.

I was only responding in the first place to someone who asked if there was anything that could match Visual Studio.

My answer is yes, but which is "better" will always be a matter of personal needs and opinion and really is of little importance because of its subjectivity.

Plus you are stuck with whatever IDE's are available for your programming language anyway.

Actually there is more than one good IDE in the .Net world too. A lot of people really like SharpDevelop as opposed to Visual Studio. It is nice and fast and has an open source flavor to it. As a matter of fact, I think that its growing popularity is one of the reasons that Microsoft has broadened the range of free versions of Visual Studio. For anyone who does not know, the latest Express Desktop version of Visual Studio is much less restricted than were prior Express versions - it can handle Solutions that include projects in multiple languages now.
 
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I am really only couple more idiotic post reads away from leaving ET for good.
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Please leave then. Your demeaning attitude sucks.
 
lol, check this clown out i destroyed him in some other thread. he pretends to be HFT and writes javacode that runs on the order of seconds. he is extremely misguided. i suggested he rename himself to lftvol to avoid confusion.

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Please leave then. Your demeaning attitude sucks.
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Quote from comintel:

I would not agree that most *major* banks and hedge funds nowadays run the *majority* of their mission-critical trading apps. on pure Windows machines, pricing engines, data warehouse servers, matching engines, dma platforms (emphasis on "most" not "all").
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Met recently in a bar one of the guys supervising the IT roadmap of one of the mayor US banks ... you would be surprised about their actual IT ecosystem. Since it grew over a long time-frame with different vendors, and they don't like to upgrade/change systems running well, it is rather diverse.

(One of the major things they are actually now forced to do is to get rid of XP since it is not anymore supported by MS ;) )
 
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