The actual problem is the scaling of your chart, the lack of proper time period extension, and the adjusted data used to create the chart -- all to give the fabricated appearance that the earth is quickly warming.
Nearly All Warming caused by Data Adjustment - Peer Reviewed
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The actual problem is the scaling of your chart, the lack of proper time period extension, and the adjusted data used to create the chart -- all to give the fabricated appearance that the earth is quickly warming.
Tell me how scaling should be changed in this chart
First, as noted by NOAA, the scale on the left should be in degrees that the oceans have heated up. The 10^22 joules scale on the left makes the chart appear scary, but in reality it is only fractions of a degree.
10^24 Joules represents the amount of heat necessary to raise the temperature of the earth's oceans by one degree. Please do the math and show us what temperature in degrees to the earth's oceans an increase of 30 * 10^22 Joules represents over 50 years.
This chart is a pure example of climate alarmist nonsense using improper scales and units.
Exactly. The truth is the warming is going more sideways than anything. There's a word for that. Give me a minute, it'll come to me. OH YEAH, it's call normal, and normal doesn't fit the agenda.
that is an argument you picked up from your slanted side.
1. what are you talking about scaling. every trader who has ever looked at a chat knows you can scale a chart in variety of valid ways. the scaling on this chart seems quite reasonable so make you argument the way gwb... just destroyed yours.
2. the starting point of the data argument is silly. As I told christy explained he picked the data because that is when the satellite data started. But... I showed you that the starting date did not matter. you could go back further and it showed the models failing the same or more.
3. Christy showed 2 temperature data sets. they are both valid. But, even if you substituted in your favorite world temperature data set... it will still show the models off by significant margins.
so cut the bullshit and deal with the truth.
1. what are you talking about scaling. every trader who has ever looked at a chat knows you can scale a chart in variety of valid ways. the scaling on this chart seems quite reasonable so make you argument the way gwb... just destroyed yours.
2. the starting point of the data argument is silly. As I told christy explained he picked the data because that is when the satellite data started. But... I showed you that the starting date did not matter. you could go back further and it showed the models failing the same or more.
3. Christy showed 2 temperature data sets. they are both valid. But, even if you substituted in your favorite world temperature data set... it will still show the models off by significant margins.
so cut the bullshit and deal with the truth.
First, oceans heat content is typically measured in joules.
Second, to prove the first point, here's how Trump's EPA uses the exact same scaling on the chart provided on their website
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-ocean-heat
So is Trump admin part of the 'alarmist nonsense' - in fact they show the exact same trend in the first chart.
1. The scailng is not reasonable given the starting point which was cherry picked. And i just destroyed gwb's argument using Trump's EPA site.
2. He picked the data point to suit his narrative - he then averaged out THREE difference scenarios instead of using the best case - https://www.skepticalscience.com/ipcc-overestimate-global-warming.htm
3. Here is actual model and real temperature change, where is the significant margin you speak of - https://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/IPCC_FAR_Since_1880.png
A Trump supporter talking about truth? You peddle conspiracy theories about how DNC offed Seth Rich, this is the person I should rely on for truth and science?
If it is coming from the skeptical science website than it is pure alarmist nonsense. Why don't you find some raw data from a real source like the British Met HADCRUT data.
CO2 might not be the right issue, but the following pictures could indicate a very very very serious issue! imo
https://www.theguardian.com/culture...tic-circle-melt-disappearing-landscape-photos
https://www.theguardian.com/culture...tic-circle-melt-disappearing-landscape-photos
Trump admin is using the exact same scale and units of measurement, why would they be using alarmist nonsense.