Critical thinking at work here.
On another note, have you explored any of Delores Cannon's work?
Near death experiences
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Critical thinking at work here.
On another note, have you explored any of Delores Cannon's work?
Human brain may stay active for hours after death
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20181125/Human-brain-may-stay-active-for-hours-after-death.aspx
Near-death experiences tied to brain activity after death, study says
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/health/near-death-experience-study-wellness/index.html
Baron
ET Founder
Yeah, I'm actually in the middle of listening to an audiobook of hers called "The Custodians".
"His real name was Yeshua. "
That is of course his Jewish name, the name of the Jews who rejected Him.
As I'm sure you know the New Testament was written in Greek.
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Yeshua (ישוע; with vowel pointing Hebrew: יֵשׁוּעַ, romanized: Yēšūaʿ) was a common alternative form of the name Yehoshua (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ, romanized: Yəhōšūaʿ, lit. 'Joshua') in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period. The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous (Ἰησοῦς), from which, through the Latin IESVS/Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua
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I (that is me, myself) never said the bible is infallible and in other posts I have made clear that it is a silly assumption. Every biblical scholar knows it is not.
See point 7
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-all-forms-of-life.374954/page-5#post-5825991
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However, my post was not to engage in discussion about the details.
You had asked (?) about why most NDE did not have a 'biblical' view of the afterworld.
Since you had an interest is the 'biblical' view of the afterworld, I posted how this originated in the Babylonian exile.
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In my posts I was saying why, to me, discussions of descriptions of the afterworld are not of interest.
See point 1
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-all-forms-of-life.374954/page-5#post-5825991
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re big assumption
I shared only what I know to be true so that others can understand why discussions of descriptions of the afterworld are not of interest to me.
To understand why this is I stated my frame of reference - the 'big assumption'
That is of course his Jewish name, the name of the Jews who rejected Him.
As I'm sure you know the New Testament was written in Greek.
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Yeshua (ישוע; with vowel pointing Hebrew: יֵשׁוּעַ, romanized: Yēšūaʿ) was a common alternative form of the name Yehoshua (Hebrew: יְהוֹשֻׁעַ, romanized: Yəhōšūaʿ, lit. 'Joshua') in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period. The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous (Ἰησοῦς), from which, through the Latin IESVS/Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua
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I (that is me, myself) never said the bible is infallible and in other posts I have made clear that it is a silly assumption. Every biblical scholar knows it is not.
See point 7
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-all-forms-of-life.374954/page-5#post-5825991
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However, my post was not to engage in discussion about the details.
You had asked (?) about why most NDE did not have a 'biblical' view of the afterworld.
Since you had an interest is the 'biblical' view of the afterworld, I posted how this originated in the Babylonian exile.
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In my posts I was saying why, to me, discussions of descriptions of the afterworld are not of interest.
See point 1
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-all-forms-of-life.374954/page-5#post-5825991
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re big assumption
I shared only what I know to be true so that others can understand why discussions of descriptions of the afterworld are not of interest to me.
To understand why this is I stated my frame of reference - the 'big assumption'
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The name Yeshua is also used in Hebrew historical texts to refer to other Joshuas recorded in Greek texts such as Jesus ben Ananias and Jesus ben Sira.[4] In English, the name Yeshua is extensively used by followers of Messianic Judaism,[5] whereas East Syriac Christian denominations use the name ʿIsho in order to preserve the Syriac name of Jesus.[6]
As you can see from above
"Jesus wasn't even his actual real name. It was literally made up 1,600 years after he died. "
is simply not accurate. It was always Iesous (Ἰησοῦς), from which, through the Latin IESVS/Iesus
The gospels were written in Greek
Matthew 85-90 AD
Mark 65 AD
Luke 65-70 AD
John 90-110
and the name has always been Iesous (or Jesus in English).
Jesus was his real name.
It was not "literally made up 1600 years after he died"
nor
"the name of the primary character is completely fabricated out of thin air"
The manuscripts are there (Ἰησοῦς)
Baron
ET Founder
Right. That's his real name. He was a Jew. His Jewish name is his real name. For every other character in the Bible with that same name, it translates directly as Joshua in English. Technically, we never really needed a direct translation anyway because Yehoshua / Yeshua is perfectly pronounceable in English.
The Greek translation of Yehoshua (Iesous) mangled the hell out of the name because the Greeks didn't even have letters in their alphabet that would make the sounds of the letters Y and H, so they dropped those completely and inserted other sounds they had available at the time. They even added the letter S on the end because males needed to have an "S" at the end of their names in that culture. In other words, they invented a new name out of thin air using sounds and rules of their culture. This process of inventing a new name continued as it was translated into Latin and then to English in the early part of the 1600s. But make no mistake about it. The name Jesus is a made-up name that appeared around the time of King James and it has virtually no resemblance to the original Hebrew name.
Correct.
As an aside, in my opinion, the bible is a stitch up, a series of carefully chosen manuscripts where similar to trading, one can draw pretty charts to bolstering an argument / theory and conveniently leave out bits which appear to prove something else.
I mentioned in a thread a while back, there is zero proof of a Cross, very early manuscripts do not attribute 'jesus' nailed to a cross, it's just more myth.
One thing I have with these NDE is that they are all just near death. Technically they are not really dead if they are able to still come back and come back lucid enough to tell us what happened. What I want to hear is far death experience, people who have died for like several thousand years and came back to tell us what happened. That to me would be more helpful so I can know what to expect.