Neanderthals vs. "Science"

[Nine_Ender]

I also have a doctorate...
Do you?

If not... stop embarrassing yourself... with your nonsense.

A doctorate in what is rather important. I value a STEM degree from a good school far more then any Arts degree.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Maybe you need to go talk to an ICU specialist on how oxygen and equipment feeds are set-up for ICU sections of a hospital. Extending ICU functionality in a hospital to "normal" beds is no easy task. Some hospitals were able to extend to a few extra beds of ICU -- converting every bed in a hospital to be ICU is a task that would cost millions & take months. And all of this is ignoring the isolation requirements of ICU beds.

Beyond emergency intake and ICU sections of hospitals -- most other beds are used for elective surgery recovery and other basic care. With COVID, elective surgeries were cancelled and these beds were unused. These beds cannot be simply converted to be ICU beds.

Of course, I have not even touched on staffing yet. Even with the existing ICU beds the hospitals were short staffed. There are specialist requirements for people working in ICUs with COVID. For instance -- you need Vent & Trach specialists not just general nurses. This is why you saw some hospital staff with these skills working 7 days a week and other hospital staff laid off in 2020.

so we can't extend ICU functionality, but we can build entire new hospitals?

 

[jem]

did you answer the question?

A doctorate in what is rather important. I value a STEM degree from a good school far more then any Arts degree.

 

[gwb-trading]

so we can't extend ICU functionality, but we can build entire new hospitals?

And just where did the U.S. build new permanent hospitals?

The reality with many existing hospitals buildings --- it would probably be quicker to build a new structure outfitted with oxygen, etc. for COVID ICU patients than try to retrofit a 50+ year old building to convert rooms to ICU.

 

[Tsing Tao]

And just where did the U.S. build new permanent hospitals?

The reality with many existing hospitals buildings --- it would probably be quicker to build a new structure outfitted with oxygen, etc. for COVID ICU patients than try to retrofit a 50+ year old building to convert rooms to ICU.

Permanent or not, building a field hospital is a lot more work than expanding ICU capability. Or are you trying to argue it isn't? Because we can talk about the amount of work each requires if you would like. And the cost.

We can ALSO talk about the many field hospitals that were completely and totally unused during the crisis.

 

[gwb-trading]

Permanent or not, building a field hospital is a lot more work than expanding ICU capability. Or are you trying to argue it isn't? Because we can talk about the amount of work each requires if you would like. And the cost.

Yes... early on tents were deployed. Now would you rather be in a proper hospital or a tent if you were critically ill with COVID?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Yes... early on tents were deployed. Now would you rather be in a proper hospital or a tent if you were critically ill with COVID?

Who cares where I'd rather be? What was the capacity of these field hospitals? Some were never used at all.

 

[Nine_Ender]

did you answer the question?

It's a pointless question I only needed 4 years of school to be in high demand in the professional world. More school was never attractive.

 

[gwb-trading]

Who cares where I'd rather be? What was the capacity of these field hospitals? Some were never used at all.

Most were not used because they did not have adequate equipment used for critical care -- most were only able to provide basic care for minor cases.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Most were not used because they did not have adequate equipment used for critical care -- most were only able to provide basic care for minor cases.

So they were build for ICU overflow (COVID) but they didn't have adequate equipment for critical care?