Ad hominem response.
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Nazi's, Anti-Semites or not?
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lol...
didn't you mean strawman?
You have got to admire one thing about the troll. Consistency.
Z is like one of those smokers you see on the cancer ward, with the tracheotomy tube in, sticking a cigarette in the hole and smoking through his neck.
He'll go down, dying, but will never ever admit defeat.
Too bad you couldn't have harnessed that determination and channeled the energy to the good side, instead of getting caught up in the dark side, Darth zEvader.
Quote from traderNik:
lol...
didn't you mean strawman?
You have got to admire one thing about the troll. Consistency.
Z is like one of those smokers you see on the cancer ward, with the tracheotomy tube in, sticking a cigarette in the hole and smoking through his neck.
He'll go down, dying, but will never ever admit defeat.
Too bad you couldn't have harnessed that determination and channeled the energy to the good side, instead of getting caught up in the dark side, Darth zEvader.
Quote from traderNik:
lol...
didn't you mean strawman?
You have got to admire one thing about the troll. Consistency.
Z is like one of those smokers you see on the cancer ward, with the tracheotomy tube in, sticking a cigarette in the hole and smoking through his neck.
He'll go down, dying, but will never ever admit defeat.
Too bad you couldn't have harnessed that determination and channeled the energy to the good side, instead of getting caught up in the dark side, Darth zEvader.
lol
It gives me such unalloyed pleasure to see you thrashing around like a fish on a hook...
It gives me such unalloyed pleasure to see you thrashing around like a fish on a hook...
The topic of the thread is not me, so comments focused on me are ad hominem....
If you wish to return to the topic, and not me, fine by me...
If you wish to return to the topic, and not me, fine by me...
You still have not addressed the two posts that I had regarding the issue.
First post:
It seems to me that somebody who would use a technique like stirring up anti-semitic sentiments among the populace for political gain is also an anti-semite. Why else would he choose this group unless he himself did not care about them. Once Hitler was in power, what was his reason for continuing with the extermination of the Jewish population? He could have taken everything they had and left them with their lives at the very least.
Second post:
I do agree that they were mad for power, but I have to disagree with you in regards to them not being anti-semitic. In fact, they were not just anti-semitic, they hated all non-Aryan races.
If this is the case, then I guess we can't really label any politician for that matter as being racist because their main motivation is to have political power. David Duke was just trying to stir up the masses in order to gain votes.
I know that you regulary claim ad hominem in your replies when you have nothing else constructive to say, but I am truly giving you an opportunity to address these questions. Are you just going to claim ad hominem again, or are you going to address the questions I have pertaining to this thread?
If Z10 claims ad hominem again without addressing these posts, I can only assume that it is an admission on his part that he has no real answer to these questions.
You still have not addressed the two posts that I had regarding the issue.
First post:
It seems to me that somebody who would use a technique like stirring up anti-semitic sentiments among the populace for political gain is also an anti-semite.
It may seem that way, but Hitler's goal was more than destruction of Jews. His invasion into Poland, and France was not about ridding the world of Jews.
He used anti Semitism as a tool to inspire nationalism and solidarity among the people, driven by his desire for more and more power.
Why not stop at ridding German of Jews if that was the real agenda?
It wasn't...
Why else would he choose this group unless he himself did not care about them.
Not caring about them, and genuinely hating them are two different states of mind.
Again, the underlying motive was for the establishment of Germany as a world power, with him as the one in charge, not the elimiation of Jews. The anti-Semitism was just a tool to help accomplish that.
Hitler played upon the psychology of the masses, and did it quite well. That doesn't mean he looked upon what he was doing with psychological manipulation beyond his own personal goals for power.
Once Hitler was in power, what was his reason for continuing with the extermination of the Jewish population?
Once you make an "other" a demon, you have to keep with that theme.
He could have taken everything they had and left them with their lives at the very least.
The German people wanted blood, just like the Romans wanted the blood in the arena.
Second post:
I do agree that they were mad for power, but I have to disagree with you in regards to them not being anti-semitic.
I am saying that Hitler used anti-Semitism as a tool, not that the people of Germany didn't buy into that anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism was a means to an end for Hitler.
In fact, they were not just anti-semitic, they hated all non-Aryan races.
Hitler wanted power, and cultivating the hatred of the German people was the tool he used to gain and keep that power.
If this is the case, then I guess we can't really label any politician for that matter as being racist because their main motivation is to have political power.
We can label their actions as racist. It depends on what their underlying motivation really is.
David Duke was just trying to stir up the masses in order to gain votes.
Entirely possible. He could well have been satisfied to be a Grand Imperial Wizard if his only goal was the practice of racism.
The deepest motive is the key, not the methods used to achieve the goal.
I know that you regulary claim ad hominem in your replies when you have nothing else constructive to say
No, you don't know that. That may be what you think, but unless you are a mind reader, you don't know.
but I am truly giving you an opportunity to address these questions.
Asked and answered.
Are you just going to claim ad hominem again, or are you going to address the questions I have pertaining to this thread?
Asked and answered.
I am happy to address the topic, which I just did.
If Z10 claims ad hominem again without addressing these posts, I can only assume that it is an admission on his part that he has no real answer to these questions.
Yawn...