Nationwide French protest over right to retire at age 60

[dandxg]

Quote from SNBthetrue:

What's happening in France is a clear illustration of the need for more direct democracy... People should have the right to vote directly on issues that concern them. Because at the end it's them that are left to handle the consequences of the decisions, may they be taken by themselves or by their representatives.

Live to work or work to Live ?

Having to take the street to manifest an opinion is soo oldschool ^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_direct_democracy#Electronic_direct_democracy

The funniest part is when people will say that it's not safe... lol, electronic market trade billions per sec ^^

Direct voting by internet per se? That's a popular theme lately. How do we overcome hackers? Have a solution for that. They can hack DoD I think they can hack voting machines and already do to a small extent.

 

[Lights]

It's like debating with a black woman.

Quote from crgarcia:

Nobody should negotiate with lazy people.

 

[rubibond007]

Quote from morganist:

Why are students helping them it is them who will have to pay for it. Are they that stupid?

I was asking myself the same question...

 

[rubibond007]

Quote from Lights:

It's like debating with a black woman.

Jajajajajajajaja!!!!!!

 

[hippie]

Raising the retirement age will only increase the general unemployment.

There is simply not enough jobs to go around in many of the developed countries. More and more of the so called jobs are make-work red-tape jobs that harm rather than help the economy.

 

[hippie]

Quote from morganist:

Why are students helping them it is them who will have to pay for it. Are they that stupid?

They are not that stupid. If the older workers don't retire, more of them would not be able to get started in the work place. There is not enough decent jobs to go around.

 

[dandxg]

Quote from my7tvette:

I would agree with this idea, except that I grew up in California, where the referendum process has greatly contributed to screwing up that state. There are simply too many voters who don't want to do the homework required for direct voting, instead relying on misleading slogans, propaganda and sound-bites.

One idea that I've thought about is to remove the vote from the House of Representatives. It would instead be populated by citizens selected via random draw. There should be some type of classroom/testing requirement to be eligible to participate. The benefit here would be that no campaigns would occur, thus no campaign contributions would be required.

Of course, the wealthy at the top of our food chain will never allow the inmates to run the asylum.

Sorry no way on taking away any voting rights. What is lacking is the ability for people to think logically, critically, and objectively. This is very lacking in the American High School System. At least I had civics class back then. I didn't learn to analyze a situation objectively until college and really when I went into business. These are teachable skills. So is financial responsibility which goes hand and hand with our current issues. I have some hope you see people on these tv shows admitting they are financial idiots and making positive changes. Society can change. We need real leadership and good role models, not taking away the public's right to vote.

 

[mokwit]

Quote from dandxg:

Sorry no way on taking away any voting rights. What is lacking is the ability for people to think logically, critically, and objectively. This is very lacking in the American High School System. At least I had civics class back then. I didn't learn to analyze a situation objectively until college and really when I went into business. These are teachable skills. So is financial responsibility which goes hand and hand with our current issues. I have some hope you see people on these tv shows admitting they are financial idiots and making positive changes. Society can change. We need real leadership and good role models, not taking away the public's right to vote.

You might want to give thought to the possibility that the dumbing down of the masses is a deliberate strategy - especially WRT the financial issues and thus the products that suck out and skim the bulk of someones wealth to the point where they have to borrow to meet their financial product obligation (Google Elizabeth Warren's Jefferson lecture on the middle class on Youtube). Wasn't always like this.

 

[mokwit]

Quote from Debaser82:

What's not to like.

Makes you think it would be worth the extreme tedium of becoming fluent in the unreadable Das Kapital so that you could get to know her better.

What makes me sure that she is a Socialist you ask? Simple, if she is participating in anything other than a rally demanding tax cuts for the rich she "must" be a pinko, Marx quoting lesbo leftie - oh no, forgot about that socialist tendency, maybe I won't waste my time memorising Marx after all.

 

[Ghost of Cutten]

Quote from crgarcia:

Nobody should negotiate with lazy people.

Easy to say when your job doesn't depend on them voting for you. Besides, one man's laziness is another man's cultivation of the finer things in life. Only calvinist freaks want to spend most of their prime years slaving in an office.