National Emergency

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

This is all one needs to know about is action standing up to judicial scrutiny:

"In Mr. Trump’s case, he is defining a longstanding situation at the border as an emergency even though illegal crossings have actually fallen in recent years. And unlike either of the Bushes, he is taking action after failing to persuade lawmakers to go along through the regular process."

I can think of a couple very strong, foundational arguments the Left can come up with that Trump’s declaration of an National Emergency was not justified. Those in favor of the wall might not want to celebrate too hard at this point.

 

[UsualName]

Trump is in a sad state, we’ll get sued then we’ll lose...

What was that nonsense?

 

[UsualName]

I can think of a couple very strong, foundational arguments the Left can come up with that Trump’s declaration of an National Emergency was not justified. Those in favor of the wall might not want to celebrate too hard at this point.

The kool aid is flowing.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Immigrants are no more likely to commit crimes than citizens.

Guns kill over 20,000 per year, 1200 of them children.

So which is the emergency ?

Well, if what you typed were actually true, it would be clear. However, the first statement is horseshit, and the second is taken way out of context to drive a narrative (like ignoring gang related crime in which no gun law would address, for instance).

 

[kingjelly]

The orangetard actually said, 'I didn't need to do this'. How do you declare an emergency on something you didn't need to do. I am in the middle on many issues (far left on health care), I really don't care that much if they build a wall but it's not a national emergency. The right will regret this more than the left regrets Harry Reid's dumbassery at some point. It seems like both sides are breaking down the things that are meant to keep us from going too far to one extreme or the other, and I don't think that bodes well for our future.

 

[futurecurrents]

Well, if what you typed were actually true, it would be clear. However, the first statement is horseshit, and the second is taken way out of context to drive a narrative (like ignoring gang related crime in which no gun law would address, for instance).

Yeah ok.

Immigrants are no more likely to commit crimes than citizens.

Guns kill over 20,000 per year, 1200 of them children.

So which is the emergency ?

 

[Buy1Sell2]

I really don't care that much if they build a wall but it's not a national emergency.

Actually it's a huge national emergency.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

People always see things one sided as good for them but don't realize they precedent they set for the next group to come in...

You have described Liberals to a tee.

 

[El OchoCinco]

I don't see how the fact that crossings have declined is relevant: there are still hundreds of thousands of apprehensions every year. Claiming that illegal crossings aren't a problem just because they were once at much higher catastrophic levels is like claiming a bull market is over because the price is rising less quickly than before.

As to the legal issues involved, there's a clear process here: Congress has the power to override Trump's declaration. And beyond that, it's up to the voters.

It is a question of whether it is a national emergency, not whether it is still an important issue that needs to eb addressed.

 

[El OchoCinco]

You have described Liberals to a tee.

and the GOP, if you think GOP is not as fucked up then stop drinking the cool aid.