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Hello nononsense,

The use of Quantum Mechanics was not meant to be taken literally. It was a metaphor.

nitro
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Hi nitro,

I can't agree more with you on your first point.

As to your second point I must say that calling in quantum mechanics to make your point about the "market" is plain "scientism". Quantum mechanics is a physical theory that evolved over more than a century now. People who contributed to quantum mechanics were rather precise and rigorous in every single one of their steps. So I fail to see any orderly kind of reasoning between what you call "the market" and quantum mechamics.

Now as to "the market" properly, nobody can exclude the possibility to crank out some profit by "unleashing one BILLION cpu operations a second" at it. The likelihood of this is not obviously greater than making a profit by unleashing only 0.1 or rather 10 billion ops/sec!

Coming back to your first point: "It is amazing what we see if we simply open our eyes", I would add that unleashing excessive computing power without simply opening our eyes is perilous to profits.

Be good,

nononsense
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Hello nononsense,

The use of Quantum Mechanics was not meant to be taken literally. It was a metaphor.

nitro
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OK nitro, I know you meant it that way!

Good luck with your project. Keep telling us about it.

nononsense
 
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Here is some explanation of the win32 priorities:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...setpriority_method_in_class_win32_process.asp

If the kernel or TCP/IP stack were not running above "high" priority then any user process at "high" priority would cause the TCP/IP stack to freeze. This obviously doesn't happen. I run TWS API at high priority all the time with no ill affect to it's net connection quality or the network connection quality of processes running at "normal" or below.

I tried to send a reply to your PM but your mailbox is full.
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Prophet,

Once again, thanks for the very useful links.

Please try again on the PM.

nitro
 
No matter what you choose you should stick with Opteron and AMD
" internal HP benchmarks compariing their 3.2GHz Xeon server to their new Opteron Proliant servers. 1P and 2P configurations were shown, and even the 1P Opteron beat the 2P Xeon in Webbench.

For dual processor configurations, the ProLiant DL145 server with
the ProLiant DL140 server using 3.2GHz Intel Xeon processors
processor configurations, the ProLiant DL145 with 2.2GHz outperformed
using 3.2GHz Intel Xeon processors by an average of 44%.

Keep in mind that this is 32 bit here. Now with 64 bit AMD has more of an advantage which they will lose when Intel goes 64 bit, but they still retain the architectural advantage. "


http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/benchmarks/dl145-webbench.pdf
 
Intel has aleady "gone" 64-bit. It's called Itanium-2.

http://www.intel.com/products/serve...x.htm?iid=ipp_browse+featureprocess_itanium2&

The neat thing is, the 64-bit Opterons will run existing 32-bit apps natively, whereas the Itanum2 CPU's "simulate" 32 bits apps, and it is MUCH slower than the Opteron on 32-bit code. Not sure what the benchmarks are when they are going head to head on 64-bits...

I agree though, that performance/$, AMD has hit the jackpot, and they will only get better and better.

nitro
 
That's not my writing, it was from a hardware website guy who assumes you know the difference between mainstream Xeon's and Itaniums(X-86 instructions maybe, no that would be too obvious, but this is Elite) . That's why the comparison with Opterons and Xeon's.
 
I got work from Tyan that they will be coming out with a barebones system that includes this MB for about $3000 (I am hopeful less.) That means that after you add four Opterons, the HDs, and the memory, you will be at about $8,000.

Not bad for a state of the art quad system.

nitro
 
Quote from nitro:

I got work from Tyan that they will be coming out with a barebones system that includes this MB for about $3000 (I am hopeful less.) That means that after you add four Opterons, the HDs, and the memory, you will be at about $8,000.

Not bad for a state of the art quad system.

nitro
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The price of the motherboard on it's own is very attractive for a quad compared to a quad xeon board:

http://www.alvio.com/pmoreinfo.asp?iid=2992

Also tyan now have the full spec of the board on their site now:

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qs.html
 
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