Multi Monitor Video Card

Quote from OldTrader:

Gotcha. And try as I might I can't find a computer that doesn't force Vista on me. And I did read an article about needing the same video cards when operating Vista.

Assuming I had the 512 MB Nividia Geforce 8800, what else do I need to run 4 monitors?

OldTrader

Dell still sells many machines with Windows XP as an option. Click on the "Small & Medium Business" option from their home page.
 
Quote from OldTrader:

Gotcha. And try as I might I can't find a computer that doesn't force Vista on me. And I did read an article about needing the same video cards when operating Vista.

Assuming I had the 512 MB Nividia Geforce 8800, what else do I need to run 4 monitors?

OldTrader
the 8800 is an overkill for trading, but great for games.

the difference being most charting software use simple graphics compared to the complex 2D/3D AA/AF shading used in action games.

Dell (and a few brands too) allows you to downgrade the Vista to WinXP. This option is not widely advertized.
 
Quote from armoured saint:

I'm getting sick of buying into the bloat-ware. Just read an article that claimed to run Vista efficiently with your apps you may need at least 4 GIGS of RAM! WTF? 8 would be better! Jesus..8 freaking GIGS! And that's just to get it loaded.

20 yrs ago i could land a shuttle on moon with 512K :D

Seriously,
Is LINUX a viable alternative for trading software. Can it be made to work? I hate inefficient use of resources and have an uneasy feeling that VISTA is FULL OF IT!
8 is a lot, but 4 is nothing nowadays. Memory is cheap anyway.

Vista caches alot of things on RAM. When you click on something, Vista gives you instant response. Not because Vista is faster, but because Vista is utilizing the RAM a lot more than XP.
e.g. searching the Vista directory is a breeze; a picture can pop up on Vista immediately while it will take 1.5 seconds on XP.
 
Quote from ET99:

8 is a lot, but 4 is nothing nowadays. Memory is cheap anyway.

Vista caches alot of things on RAM. When you click on something, Vista gives you instant response. Not because Vista is faster, but because Vista is utilizing the RAM a lot more than XP.
e.g. searching the Vista directory is a breeze; a picture can pop up on Vista immediately while it will take 1.5 seconds on XP.

Thanks forn the reply.

can i get that same pic as fast on linux?
 
Quote from armoured saint:

I'm getting sick of buying into the bloat-ware. Just read an article that claimed to run Vista efficiently with your apps you may need at least 4 GIGS of RAM! WTF? 8 would be better! Jesus..8 freaking GIGS! And that's just to get it loaded.

20 yrs ago i could land a shuttle on moon with 512K :D

Seriously,
Is LINUX a viable alternative for trading software. Can it be made to work? I hate inefficient use of resources and have an uneasy feeling that VISTA is FULL OF IT!
Linux is a great OS, but it will never make popular prime time.

Not because I said so, but because of the popular vote.

p.s. Vista is full of it alright, but the full implementation of Linux (whether it is server or workstation) is not small either.
 
Quote from gnome:

Dell Vostro still has a WinXP option. I just set one up for my cousin... it seems to be OK all around.

For a 2nd video card, look for another GeForce... in a PCI model.

Or, you could sell your GeForce on eBay and get more than enough for it to buy 2 x dualhead Quadro NVS's..

Gnome:

Thanks for pointing me in the Vostro direction. It does have the WinXP option. I'm assuming that I could continue to use my Matrox video card provided I took the XP option. Is that correct?

As an aside, do think the Vostro will function well as a trading type machine?

OldTrader
 
yeah, should work fine. the Vostro 200 comes with 2 PCI slots which work with old stuff (and 2 PCIe slots). No AGP though.

The machine in general is fine. Get lots of Ram though.
 
Quote from Jayford:

yeah, should work fine. the Vostro 200 comes with 2 PCI slots which work with old stuff (and 2 PCIe slots). No AGP though.

The machine in general is fine. Get lots of Ram though.

Don't necessarily agree with "get lots of RAM". The correct amount is "enough so that a modest amount remains available.. above what your system is using when all of your apps are running". For many people, that will be only 512MB... I know, that's heresy.... But if you check your Task Manager and Physical Memory Available, you'll see how much "room" you have. Buying excess RAM is mostly a waste of money.

The reason "lots of RAM" is probably not really necessary is because Windows is quite efficient at paging out lower priority functions and leaving plenty of physical RAM available, "just in case" it's needed.

Of course anybody can buy 2-4G of RAM, but if it just sits there unused, why have it?

As for Vista... what little bit I've read (and that's been only a little because I have zero interest in ever running it myself) says that Vista trys to "cache almost everything" during a session. In Vista's case, perhaps "the more RAM the better".
 
OldTrader

If you plan to get a new Dell to run 4 monitors, the new Precision T3400 is worth a serious look. It allows the use of 2 PCIe x16 display cards, and can be configured with 2 Quadro NVS 290 cards which, as gnome pointed out previously, is one of the best graphics cards for trading (and relatively inexpensive to boot). 2 NVS 290 cards support a total of 4 (DVI) LCD panels.

Happy trading!

wwx

Quote from OldTrader:

Several years ago I installed a Matrox G200 MMS video card in an older Dell Computer, to operate 4 monitors. It has worked well.

I'm just getting started in upgrading my computer. Will probably get a new Dell. I'm wondering when I do whether I can re-install the Matrox G200 MMS video card in the new computer.

I notice that the Matrox website does not show the G200. Either I didn't look hard enough or they don't support it anymore. Any problems with reinstalling the G200?

OldTrader
 
Quote from wwx:

OldTrader

If you plan to get a new Dell to run 4 monitors, the new Precision T3400 is worth a serious look. It allows the use of 2 PCIe x16 display cards, and can be configured with 2 Quadro NVS 290 cards

If you get 290's, you'll probably have to buy new from a retailer... they just are not that common yet. Cost for 2, approx $300.

Or, you could get 2, 285s on eBay for around $60 -$80.

The 290s have 256MB VRAM (specifically for Vista), the 285s [mostly... the earliest ones have 64MB RAM, but availability is low] have 128MB VRAM. Both are "overkill" for trading. (That G200 OP is concerned about has only 32MB VRAM to run 4 monitors... 8MB/monitor... and that is adequate. And I used to run the same program setup I have now with 4 ATI singleheads, each with only 4MB RAM... even they never skipped a beat.)
 
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