Multi-chart Ripping Off Tradestation

Quote from gttrader:

I think I suggested you contact TS Support the makers of MultiCharts



You could just as easily contact TradeStation and ask why they have done nothing.
I'm sure if there was any copyright infringement they would have acted, it's inconceivable that they wouldn't. I don't buy into the idea that it is because they are in Russia as the resellers are in Germany and the US so that would be no object.
If you really want the answer then go find it.
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Quote from Tums:

He is just a whine. Let him have some fun.
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Quote from gttrader:

Yes I know. He started the thread saying he was concerned for TradeStation's stockholders, then tried to change the subject to Muppet's stupidity and now he wants to buy MultiCharts!
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Quote from ProfLogic:

He doesn't want to ask either one. He just wants to create conflict.
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Quote from gttrader:

Well stated.
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My simple reply to all of your statements is as follows:
  • Suppose your boss gave you work to do. Now if someone accuses you of not doing the work. What will be your reaction? If you are innocent, you shall provide the proof of your work. If not, you might beat round the bush, giving excuses like PC not okay, or that person did not give you the data etc.
  • The same logic can be applied to anything.
  • If you search around ET, you shall find that the above is not the only case. Many people face such accusations; however, if they have the answer or explanations, they give it without beating round the bush. It does not matter whether it is the developer or support or users, all respond if they have valid answers. If they do not have answers, they shall pass the buck around as you seem to be doing by telling me to contact the support, for if you have the confidence, you can straight away point it out.
  • If you may please see that I have posted the same query in 3 threads, with no direct response except that you are complaining or avoiding asking the support. Please see the following posts:
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1879474#post1879474
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1879466#post1879466
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1879431#post1879431

    If you shall notice that I had posted even the Multi-Charts Thread with no response not even from Andrew Kirillov, ET Sponsor, who has so far not replied my queries, in spite of answering other posts. Moreover, you all have been gracious in providing help to many queries, why not to mine, please?
  • As regarding the thread title, it remains the same. Moreover, can you please state, gttrader, as to where had I mentioned that I would like to purchase Multi-Charts. Looking for a TradeStation replacement does not mean that I would like to purchase Multi-Charts.
 
Quote from SuperCruz:

can you please state, gttrader, as to where had I mentioned that I would like to purchase Multi-Charts. Looking for a TradeStation replacement does not mean that I would like to purchase Multi-Charts.
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Actually I was pointing out that your supposed motivation for posting this nonsense appears to have changed from:

Quote from SuperCruz:

I Hope, TradeStation did not give them permission to do so, because this would be a crime against their stockholders as it is a copyright infringement. So, TradeStation need to stop this or else they are not honoring their duties to their stock holders.

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to:

Quote from SuperCruz:

I have been using TradeStation for quite sometime. I have noticed that they have not yet improved their product over time and would like to switch over to a better product. With that said, I believe in some ethical standards. Firstly, “Copyrights” are good for 100 years even after author dies, so that is not the answer. It seems that that Multi-chart just steals from everyone.

Moreover, if Multi-chart is different from TradeStation, ................
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All your questions have already been answered in this thread and I cannot be bothered to repeat them for the hard of thinking.
 
Quote from SuperCruz:

I Hope, TradeStation did not give them permission to do so, because this would be a crime against their stockholders as it is a copyright infringement. So, TradeStation need to stop this or else they are not honoring their duties to their stock holders.
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Whether Tradestation given them permission is none of your freaken business.
Tradestation is a public corporation, you don't think they know how to run their business?
They have expensive lawyers, you don't think they would/could fire off an imposing letter to MultiCharts if their benefits were infringed? LOL

If MultiCharts were to "steal" the code, you don't think they would be "stupid" enough to leave the copyright notice in there untouched ????
If copyright is an issue, all they have to do is re-write the code. MACD and stochastics are not rocket science, anybody can whip that out in no time.

My perspective is: it is a benefit to Tradestation to have another software uses EasyLanguage.
Plagiarism is the most sincere form of compliment.
MultiCharts' participation will ensure the longevity of EasyLanguage, and ultimately the longevity of Tradestation.
 
Quote from Tums:

Whether Tradestation given them permission is none of your freaken business.
Tradestation is a public corporation, you don't think they know how to run their business?
They have expensive lawyers, you don't think they would/could fire off an imposing letter to MultiCharts if their benefits were infringed? LOL................
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I would like to differ, as if you sell a product to the public; you are in the eyes of the public. Thus, you have some responsibility to the public, and you do owe an explanation for your actions. Thus, it is definitely our business to know about the permission issue. Many issues like this have caused the customers of an unethical product to be disenfranchised. Thus, being in Russia does not mean you can violate the intent of copyright laws. Even though, it makes it hard for TradeStation to sue you. If you lack integrity, that shows and means a lot in terms of your public face.

Quote from Tums:

..............If MultiCharts were to "steal" the code, you don't think they would be "stupid" enough to leave the copyright notice in there untouched ????
If copyright is an issue, all they have to do is re-write the code. MACD and stochastics are not rocket science, anybody can whip that out in no time. ..................
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You are correct; they left the copyright notice untouched. However, they did not rewrite the language as per copyright issues. :) The proof can be seen in the same thread as follows:

- http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1809939#post1809939
- http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1809982#post1809982

Quote from Tums:

............My perspective is: it is a benefit to Tradestation to have another software uses EasyLanguage.
Plagiarism is the most sincere form of compliment.
MultiCharts' participation will ensure the longevity of EasyLanguage, and ultimately the longevity of Tradestation.
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You are correct again, that to imitate is a compliment, however are you willing to let all trading software (like AmiBroker, TradersStudio, TradingBlox, Ninja etc.) to use your popular language without any issues for the sake of longevity and benefit of TradeStation. :)


Moreover, if I was making accusations about Trading Blox, Tim would reply, if it was AmiBroker, Tomasz would reply, and if it was TradersStudio, Murray would reply and so on forth. It is a simple human tendency, as “No one would like to hear anything negative about them if it is not true". Even I responded to your statements when you all said that I am not making efforts to contact and is just making an issue.

Please, before anyone of you answers please do not answer for all of you have taken pains to explain and answer. I would for once like your sponsor, the MultiCharts ET sponsor, Andrew Kirillov, and only him to answer at this moment; as he is the only person who really counts at this junction. This is a personal request to you, Mr. Andrew Kirillov, to please answer the above queries.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

Ignorance is bliss I guess in all cases but yours.
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ROTFLMAO.

I guess this guy is really clueless.
This proves once again, you see everything in ET.
 
Quote from SuperCruz:

Please, before anyone of you answers please do not answer for all of you have taken pains to explain and answer. I would for once like your sponsor, the MultiCharts ET sponsor, Andrew Kirillov, and only him to answer at this moment; as he is the only person who really counts at this junction. This is a personal request to you, Mr. Andrew Kirillov, to please answer the above queries.
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LOL.

If you had asked, I am sure your question would be answered. But you did not ASK. You slandered.



LOL

Out.
 
If TradeStation doesn't feel the need to defend its own copyrights, why should you or I care? Their silence implies their consent.
 
Quote from tortoise:

If TradeStation doesn't feel the need to defend its own copyrights, why should you or I care? Their silence implies their consent.
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This is the point that SuperCruz continues to ignore. Look at the first reply in this thread

Quote from brownsfan019:

........ I'm sure TS is aware of it, so maybe they don't care? Maybe they are getting a cut?

It would seem odd for a company like TS to just say Oh Well....
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SuperCruz rather than feeling inadequate as you have been unable to bait Andrew into responding, you should instead be wondering why no one from TradeStation has felt the need to defend their inaction in supposedly defending their copyright.

Please answer this one question, I’ll make it easy for and provide multiple choice.

Why have TradeStation taken no action against TS Support?

1) They have been too busy improving their platform and adding international data feeds that they failed to notice MultiCharts has been around since 2004.

2) They have been too busy sipping Pina Colades and counting the G-Strings go past to notice MultiCharts has been around since 2004.

3) They welcome the competition.

4) There is no copyright infringement so there is nothing they can do.
 
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