Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions

[jem]

1. your bullshit excuse of a regulation .. does not apply to subpoenaed emails...


and

2. You just proved Hillary and her team did not follow regulation when they criminally destroyed evidence..

Her and her team were required to review each message before destroying it or moving it.

"This means that all employees are required to review each message identify its value, and either delete it or move it to a recordkeeping system.”);3 Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual, 5 FAM 443.2(b)

Blah blah blah, you think there is some email committee going through emails of every federal employee? Whatever is sent to .gov address is supposed to be automatically captured, anything outside is an employee's discretion whether they were private or not. If Clinton wanted to hide emails, she could have easily used two email addresses (one .gov and one private) to keep things secret, she didn't need to go through the conspriacy charade you guys have cooked up.

Here's the law in case you are interested, because these are not from Breitbart or Gateway Pundit, you may consider them to be 'lies'


There is no question that former Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision – she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server. Under policies issue both by the National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”) and the State Department, individual officers and employees are permitted and expected to exercise judgment to determine what constitutes a federal record. See NARA Bulletin 2014-06 ¶4 (Sept. 15, 2014) (“Currently, in many agencies, employees manage their own email accounts and apply their own understanding of Federal records management. This means that all employees are required to review each message, identify its value, and either delete it or move it to a recordkeeping system.”);3 Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual, 5 FAM 443.2(b) (“[t]he intention of this guidance is not to require the preservation of every E-mail message.”)
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2401598/state-objections.pdf

 

[exGOPer]

1. your bullshit excuse of a regulation .. does not apply to subpoenaed emails...

First, ONLY the Benghazi related emails were subpoenaed, all those emails were given months ago, Republicans wanted to use that excuse to go through all personal emails. Whatever happened to your unreasonable search excuse?

Secondly, as the FBI said, the instructions to delete the emails were done in December 2015 - MONTHS before any subpoena was issued. The IT guy didn't follow through on it. And even if the emails were not deleted, NOBODY other than Clinton and her team had the power to sort through it.

You just proved Hillary and her team did not follow regulation when they criminally destroyed evidence..

Hey numbnuts, REGULATIONS are not LAWS - there is no 'criminally' there. Stop wasting my time with this kind of childish arguments

Her and her team were required to review each message before destroying it or moving it.

What do you think her lawyers did? They reviewed the heading, determined if it's work related or not and moved on. That's more emails than any Republican has ever given to the government.

From Comey's testimony

JORDAN: Did Secretary Clinton know her legal team deleted those e-mails that they kept from us?

COMEY: I don’t believe so.

JORDAN: Did Secretary Clinton approve those e-mails being deleted?

COMEY: I don’t think there was any specific instruction or conversation between the Secretary and her lawyers about that.

JORDAN: Did you ask that question?

COMEY: Yes.

JORDAN: Did Secretary Clinton know that her lawyers cleaned devices in such a way to preclude forensic recovery?

COMEY: I don’t believe she did.

JORDAN: Did you ask that question?

COMEY: Yes.

COMEY: I can’t say that. Our best information is that she set it up as a matter of convenience. It was an existing system her husband had and she decided to have a domain on that system.

 

[jem]

numbnutz.... it was your argument....

that regulation is the argument you provided for excuse the fact her team delted the arguments.

If don't find that argument persuasive but... I ripped your argument by pointing out... they were to review each email... not just look at the heading...as you said.

with respect to comey... how the hell would comey know what clinton told her lawyer.

he gave her immunity and clintons are professional liars.
that comey even testified that way shows what a numbnuts he was.
prosecutors don't testify as to criminals knowledge and provide excuses for them...

they speak in terms of the evidence they have or do not have.

 

[exGOPer]

numbnutz.... it was your argument....

that regulation is the argument you provided for excuse the fact her team delted the arguments.

Tell me the 'criminal' aspects of REGULATIONS, how can you be a criminal for breaking regulations.

If don't find that argument persuasive but... I ripped your argument by pointing out... they were to review each email... not just look at the heading...as you said.

Makes zero difference, reading every message for more than 60000 emails is impractical, these were lawyers on time

with respect to comey... how the hell would comey know what clinton told her lawyer.

Multiple interviews, since lying to the FBI is a crime, they know how to get the truth.

he gave her immunity and clintons are professional liars.
that comey even testified that way shows what a numbnuts he was.
prosecutors don't testify as to criminals knowledge and provide excuses for them....

Clinton never had immunity. Comey is required to testify as head of FBI director on ANY questions asked, Comey was not a prosecutor in this case

Seriously, your arguments are feting worse.

 

[gwb-trading]

Trump’s Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.
https://newrepublic.com/article/143...ses-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

 

[Tony Stark]

I listened to around 15 minutes of Rush Limbaugh's show today,around an hour ago and he said his sources have told him Mueller has already gotten people to flip on Trump.


That might explain Trumps behavior lately.It also makes sense since Mueller has guys like this on his team...


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/tru...-prosecutor-looking-into-russian-ties-report/


Trump associates are terrified of witness-flipping prosecutor looking into Russian ties

The Trump team is reportedly worried about special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s appointment of a veteran federal prosecutor known for convincing witnesses to turn on their associates.

Andrew Weissmann, who led the U.S. Justice Department’s criminal fraud section before joining Mueller’s probe of alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, is best known for prosecuting the energy company Enron and organized crime cases in Brooklyn — which drew the attention of the newspaper owned by Jared Kushner, reported Axios.

The website reported that Trump’s associates have been worried about Weissmann since they first heard that Mueller had added him to the special counsel staff.

 

[jem]

you arguments are ridiculous.

You can be a criminal and break regulations at the same time.
Hillary is the perfect example.
you were trying to argue she was not a criminal because she followed regulations.
I showed you she did not even follow regulations....so your argument failed.

Comey has to testify and answer questions... but no legit law enforcement offers testify for the target of the investigation without proof. How the hell would he know what she told her lawyers regarding the destruction of evidence?

He thinks he can trust Hillary to tell him the truth?

Oh yea Jim, I told Mills she better get the hard drive destroyed asap after we got that subpoena.

Tell me the 'criminal' aspects of REGULATIONS, how can you be a criminal for breaking regulations.



Makes zero difference, reading every message for more than 60000 emails is impractical, these were lawyers on time



Multiple interviews, since lying to the FBI is a crime, they know how to get the truth.



Clinton never had immunity. Comey is required to testify as head of FBI director on ANY questions asked, Comey was not a prosecutor in this case

Seriously, your arguments are feting worse.

 

[Cuddles]

I listened to around 15 minutes of Rush Limbaugh's show today,around an hour ago and he said his sources have told him Mueller has already gotten people to flip on Trump.


That might explain Trumps behavior lately.It also makes sense since Mueller has guys like this on his team...


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/tru...-prosecutor-looking-into-russian-ties-report/


Trump associates are terrified of witness-flipping prosecutor looking into Russian ties

The Trump team is reportedly worried about special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s appointment of a veteran federal prosecutor known for convincing witnesses to turn on their associates.

Andrew Weissmann, who led the U.S. Justice Department’s criminal fraud section before joining Mueller’s probe of alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, is best known for prosecuting the energy company Enron and organized crime cases in Brooklyn — which drew the attention of the newspaper owned by Jared Kushner, reported Axios.

The website reported that Trump’s associates have been worried about Weissmann since they first heard that Mueller had added him to the special counsel staff.

I mean, it's Limbaugh, the guy would sell his mother for a nickel so who knows if he's really connected. But everyone could see it a mile away starting w/Flynn. You think anyone's going to pledge loyalty to Trump? I doubt the guy knows the definition of the word.

 

[jem]

I keep reading this and I wonder... how is buying real estate money laundering. its not like the money is getting cleaned up...its just parked.

 

[exGOPer]

you arguments are ridiculous.

You can be a criminal and break regulations at the same time.
Hillary is the perfect example.
you were trying to argue she was not a criminal because she followed regulations.
I showed you she did not even follow regulations....so your argument failed.

Comey has to testify and answer questions... but no legit law enforcement offers testify for the target of the investigation without proof. How the hell would he know what she told her lawyers regarding the destruction of evidence?

He thinks he can trust Hillary to tell him the truth?

Oh yea Jim, I told Mills she better get the hard drive destroyed asap after we got that subpoena.

Nobody said one can't be a criminal and break regulations at the same time

What I pointed out was your ridiculous theory that someone is a criminal because you pointed out that they broke regulations and NOT the law.

Who are you kidding me with these old logical fallacies?

Second, no evidence was destroyed because no one was accused of any crimes, deleting emails is not a crime especially if you read the FRA and know the precedent of previous SoS and their aide's deleting ALL emails regardless of official content.

Lying to the FBI is a crime, if Hillary lied to them then she committed a crime and since Comey says she didn't lie, you have NOTHING to go on other than your bizarre conspiracies. How is that Seth Rich thing going by the way, has your buddy Kim Dotcom supplied any evidence yet? LOL