Moveon.org has got to be shut down!

Quote from Maverick74:

I do not want to silence them. Do you understand that being a tax exempt organization is a privilege, not a right. I will say that again, being a tax exempt organization is a privilege, not a right. I believe they are abusing that privilege, and should no longer be a tax exempt organization. I do not want to silence them. They can talk all they want, just not on my tax dollar. Thank you.
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You are dead wrong there fella. Of course it is a right under the tax code. It is not a priviledge.

Anyone has the right to form and operate a not for profit organization. It simply has to remain non profit. It does not have to please Maverick74. And your tax dollars are not supporting Moveon.org. It is supported by thier own fundraising efforts. They don't get taxpayer funding. And any salaries paid to staffers are subject to income taxes. So how are you supporting them?

Frankly, I have never heard anyone so out of tune with American
Republican principles than you.
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:

What is real funny to me is that folks get bent out of shape with this, yet these right winger have been calling democrats communists for years.
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Socialists not communists. And that is a big difference between calling a democrat a socialist, which they are in ideology, there is noting wrong with being a socialist if that is what you are. But comparing someone to a man that killed 6 million jews is a disgrace. There are a million ways to attack Bush, why resort to Hitler. Why sink that low? Why put the holocaust survivors through that kind of torture just to get attention?

Don't you think that is selfish? Don't you have any respect for these people? Do you just not care because it wasn't your family that was marched into a gas chamber. It wasn't your family that was sent on a train to Auschwitz. It wasn't your family that had to go without food for weeks on end. It wasn't you that had to listen to the screams from the women and the children. It wasn't you that walked down the street and smelled the burning flesh from the smoke stacks. I guess since this wasn't your problem you see no problem with moveon.org using this atrocity to further some kind of political agenda. How sad.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

Socialists not communists. And that is a big difference between calling a democrat a socialist, which they are in ideology, there is noting wrong with being a socialist if that is what you are.
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Republicans and Democrats support private enterprise. Socialists don't.

That is a huge difference. You have to be a moron to not know that.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they both support wealth transfer to some degree, just that Republicans beleive that it should go from the lower and middle classes to the entrepreneurial and corporate classes, and Democrats beleive in the opposite flow.
 
Quote from dgabriel:

You are dead wrong there fella. Of course it is a right under the tax code. It is not a privilege.

Anyone has the right to form and operate a not for profit organization. It simply has to remain non profit. It does not have to please Maverick74. And your tax dollars are not supporting Moveon.org. It is supported by their own fundraising efforts. They don't get taxpayer funding. And any salaries paid to staffers are subject to income taxes. So how are you supporting them?

Frankly, I have never heard anyone so out of tune with American
Republican principles than you.
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OK dgabriel, whatever. Your right and I'm wrong just like usual. You are never wrong, you are always right. How silly of me to even argue against you. And just for your information tax exempt organizations are supported by us. By the very fact that you and I pay taxes and they don't. You don't even live in this country do you, so don't tell me I am out of tune with American Republican principles.
 
Quote from dgabriel:

Republicans and Democrats support private enterprise. Socialists don't.

That is a huge difference. You have to be a moron to not know that.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they both support wealth transfer to some degree, just that Republicans beleive that it should go from the lower and middle classes to the entrepreneurial and corporate classes, and Democrats beleive in the opposite flow.
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LOL, dude you can't put democrat and private enterprise in the same sentence. It's called an oxymoron.
 
http://www.wiesenthal.com/social/press/pr_item.cfm?ItemID=8720

January 4, 2004

SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER CRITICIZES MOVEON.ORG FOR POSTING AD COMPARING BUSH TO HITLER

The Simon Wiesenthal Center sharply criticized MoveOn.org for accepting and posting ads comparing President George Bush to Adolf Hitler.

“Politics and preparing for a presidential election is one thing, but comparing the Bush Administration’s fight against Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein with the policies of Adolf Hitler is shameful, beyond the pale and has no place in the legitimate discourse of American politics,” said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the Center’s founder and dean. “Adolf Hitler was responsible for the greatest crime in the history of mankind – the Holocaust. To compare Hitler to an American President is not only ludicrous, but defames the Holocaust,” he added.

“This ad is not about Democrats or Republicans – it is about lies and a distortion of history,” he said. “Move On.org has a responsibility to publicly repudiate such lies as do all political leaders,” he concluded.

To read more and view ad, go to: Drudge Report

The Wiesenthal Center is one of the largest international Jewish human rights organizations with over 400,000 member families in the United States. It is an NGO at international agencies including the United Nations, UNESCO, the OSCE, and the Council of Europe.

For more information, contact the Center’s Public Relations department, 310-553-9036.
 
Quote from dgabriel:

Republicans and Democrats support private enterprise. Socialists don't.

That is a huge difference. You have to be a moron to not know that.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that they both support wealth transfer to some degree, just that Republicans beleive that it should go from the lower and middle classes to the entrepreneurial and corporate classes, and Democrats beleive in the opposite flow.
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Hardly.Presently the lowest percentage of workers since the depression face federal tax liability. Despite the inane mantra "tax cuts for the rich", the tax code remains anachronistically progressive. As I've said before, This board must not know to many retirees on Union or public employee pensions. it's a sweet deal. Compare a postal worker retiring on 40k a year to a small business owner who pays exorbitant property taxes, business taxes, payroll taxes, assorted communication and energy taxes, and business licenses. I'm amazed that ANYONE is able to survive as a small entrepreneur. Is big business a Republican creation. No way. Economy of scale bro. Largely brought on by the onerous implications of a tax burden that has FORCED smaller businesses into co-opting themselves into conglomerates.
 
Quote from Shrewd Dude:

speaking of which, didn't pat robertson say god told him bush will be re-elected?!?

unbelievable...
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believe what you want but there is something to prophetic gifting among Christians.. non-Christians call it being psychic.. ive personally had many of these experiences..

the thing is that Bush didnt go after Saddam or Al Quida because of a voice in his head.. he did it because thousands of americans were killed in an act of war against our country.. what else could a reasonable person do?

-qwik
 
Quote from Maverick74:

The Simon Wiesenthal Center sharply criticized MoveOn.org for accepting and posting ads comparing President George Bush to Adolf Hitler.
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Pavlov would be so pleased . . . :p
 
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