Most Influential Humans Ever

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Okay that is up for serious consideration.

How has Alexander influenced more humans than Gandhi?

Obama may well be what u say, it is undeniable he is a globalist. Ask your acquaintances what a globalist is tho.

Your eight grade niece knows who Obama is.

Her granddaughters eight grade niece will too. Ask your niece your George Soros is.
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Obama is hype.
 
There is no point in debating you, you are hopelessly partisan. "Obama creates Fiscal Responsibility Commission" While signing into law what will end up being one of the biggest p.o.s. spending bills in history, and after blowing another 800 billion on a failed stimulus which only helped create more government jobs, and running the biggest deficit in history. Sounds like the proverbial, do as i say not as i do.

Quote from hermit:

The problem is - your "talking points" from Fox News wont stand the test of time.

For e.g., how do you explain this away.
"Obama Creates Fiscal Responsibility Commission, Targets Deficit Reduction"
"Healthcare bill to cut deficit: CBO"

Obama came into office "with a $1.3 trillion deficit before I had passed any law. ... We came in with $8 trillion worth of debt over the next decade."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...obama-inherited-deficits-bush-administration/

Our biggest problem with Rove's statement is that he credits all of the debt accumulated in 2009 and 2010 to Obama, and even conservative budget analysts agree that it's fair to assign at least some of the 2009 increase to Bush.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...laims-obama-has-already-run-more-debt-bush-d/
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Ever? These political dopes don't even make the top 100. Agree with them or not, Christ and Buddha have had tremendous influence. Whoever invented the wheel. The great mathematicians and philosophers of ancient times. The Wright brothers and those who worked on manned flight. Thomas Edison, Alexander Bell, other great inventors. Einstein and and other great men/women of science. See where I'm going. These silly ass political types come and go like a case of herpes, and serve about as much purpose.
 
Quote from bumblebuzzard:

RCG, I think you are beginning to lose sight of your original question. You were asking about the influence of individuals on the human race globally. Whether Newton was ultimately right or wrong in the light of contemporary physics is not really relevant. It is even less relevant that someone's granddaughter is able to pick Newton out of a lineup. You yourself mentioned Constantine, and by the lineup criterion, he would probably be eliminated also.

You have modified the rules to take in account time, but that requires a speculation about the influence of contemporary people over a long period, and that is just, well, speculation.

I think you are greatly underweighing Newton's influence. Leave aside Newton as physicist if you wish. Newton as mathematician alone puts him on the list. Einstein wouldn't have been able to begin without Newton's math, therefore, I would say that Newton's influence is greater than Einstein. (And I do know about Leibniz.)
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Nice argument. Newton in, Ghandi, out.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

1. Barrack H. Obama
2. Mohandas K. Gandhi
3. Adolf Hitler
4. Emperor Constantine
5. J. Robert Oppenheimer

There can be only five.

Any argument from this list?

Based on impact of decisions/accomplishments on the human race, globally.
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What is this? Your own list doesn't fit the stated criteria. If you mean those whose discoveries or decisions have had the GREATEST impact on humanity then your list is a joke.

First Obama has accomplished nothing that benefits the human race. He also has had no global impact whatsoever at this point. Zero. Are u this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37B_nOdRTAA

Ghandi got the Brits out of India, that is not a global effect, and I wouldn't consider it an achievment for the human race.

Hitler I would keep on the list. If America hadn't beat him to the bomb it is possible he would have been the only man in history to conquer the globe. He achieved nothing for humanity but the impact of his decisions was truly global.

Constantine maybe, but even if he hadn't ended the persecution of Christianity, I am nearly certain it would have survived.

Oppenheimer while vital in the development of the a-bomb is not as worthy as Einstein or Fermi. Fermi created the first nuclear reactor, and nuclear power, in one form or another, does and will continue to increasingly play a major role in humanity IMO.

I would definentely include Archimedes, and I agree with maybe Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great as conquerers. Possibly Tesla, Alessandro Volta, or Newton. Also the Wright brothers, or Robert H. Goddard. No philosophers (only) because talking and thinking don't ACTUALLY accomplish anything. I'm sure there are others I'm missing but Obama LOLOLOL.:p

Good call Gcap on Darwin.
 
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Granted, and where are these men buried?
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We don't even know where Mozart is burried, and that was 300 years ago, let along 10s of thousands or more that these events likely took place over (I don't really know since I am not a Palaeontologist etc) Burial is an invention of modern man. It requires myths in order for it to make sense as a ritual. Otherwise, the dead body was probably turned into a carcass by scavenger animals.
 
I'd say Karl Marx.

Who else can be pointed to that was responsible for a "way of life" that is responsible for as much brutality and misery that started was by his Manifesto?
 
Quote from Haroki:

I'd say Karl Marx.

Who else can be pointed to that was responsible for a "way of life" that is responsible for as much brutality and misery that started was by his Manifesto?
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We don't count capitalism's "externalities" so well because they are not quickly amenable to a Persons X of country Y shot Z people from 1975 to 1979 analysis. You can shoot an animal, or you can destroy its habitat and wait for it to die. But during the waiting, there are several things that might kill that animal which probably would not have occurred to it within its habitat. But the probability is the catch, that's what's hard to calculate, so we de-weight it.

How many displaced persons were pushed over the harsh line they lived too close to, and perished as a basic result of being kicked off their land and into favelas so a banana or coffee plantation, to name just two commodities, could be created? And pollution? Spills? Over-extraction, like industrial fishing? Automation? Children working 16 hour days on assembly lines? Warfare justified in the name of "freedom" but whose real purpose was keeping corporate supply chains open?

But I agree, Marx goes on the list, clearly. But if not him, someone else would surely have outed and described the power elite that replaced feudalism.
 
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