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Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis
- Thread starter Pa(b)st Prime
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Quote from smilingsynic:
Devry? LOL. Did you graduate from high school? Good luck with that GED thing.
There is no "z" in enterprise.
Actually there is .
Version of English you speak is not the only one in existence . I preffer the original version.
I shouldn't be but I was surprized at your ignorance as you claim to be spelling expert. It is obvious that your ignorance and lack of common sense paired with self percieved superiority prevents you from comprehensing even the basic logical problems.
Your british isles ancestors would have you thrown to hogs for denying an existence of an original word.
Quote from Cutten:
The USA, where the majority are whites, has a murder rate per 100,000 of about 6. By contrast, Bermuda is majority black and has a murder rate of 1.5. Of top 10 most murderous countries in the world, only 2 have a mainly black population.
Doesn't this contradict your statement that "Crime follows blacks as surely as night follows day"?
Huh? Half the murders in the U.S. are committed by blacks. Hence 'white" America has a murder rate on a par with Switzerland. In fact also strip out Latinos and America has a pitifully low homicide rate.
The studies you mention are flawed in the respect that most of Africa doesn't report. Useless eh? I'll flip your logic though. Look at the ten safest.
(1) Slovenia 0.7
(2) Austria 0.9
(3) Sweden 1.8
(4) Switzerland 2.3
(5) Israel 2.3
(6) Hong Kong 2.4
(7) Norway 2.5
(8) Ireland 2.8
(9) Finland 3.7
(10) Singapore 4.3
Gee, what do those countries have in common?
Quote from Hombre:
Actually there is .
Version of English you speak is not the only one in existence . I preffer the original version.
I shouldn't be but I was surprized at your ignorance as you claim to be spelling expert. It is obvious that your ignorance and lack of common sense paired with self percieved superiority prevents you from comprehensing even the basic logical problems.
Your british isles ancestors would have you thrown to hogs for denying an existence of an original word.
You're joking, right?
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
Cutten you really need to visit America. Your views are as ancient as Harriet Beecher Stowe or To Kill A Mockingbird. Think Puff Daddy not Sounder.
Even a seemingly prejudiced guy like me-heck I started this thread-wouldn't discriminate based on race. Not liking someone is one thing . Harming or slighting someone because of their genetic profile is immoral. Discussing Black crime/social/economic problems isn't tantamount to cracking the bull whip. The problem with the global African community isn't racism from Whites but racism from Black's. There's something Blacks en masse perceive about themselves-a self inflictedness-that's inhibiting their collective development as equal players. Why can Mexican immigrants-penniless, illiterate in a foreign land-find employment, stay married and commit crime at a far lesser rate? This isn't about wealth, education or any of the other culprits so often cited by those thinking in the box. It's about imagery, cultural values, self-worth.
What's any of that got to do with my post? Let me repeat the question: consider a black person who does *not* have any of the negative behaviours or beliefs you cite. How are they responsible for the negative treatment they get because of their racial background?
Quote from nutmeg:
We all have encounters of the ignorant kind. I suppose the black man can teach whitey one of two lessons, he can rise above the situation, deal with it and move on set a positive example or waste time and energy and sue because his civil rights have been violated.
Personally when I have an ignorant counter, and we all have them, I go somewhere else, ain't worth my time.
You sound like someone who has never witnessed the reality of widespread racial prejudice. What if you can't go elsewhere? What if you don't just encounter it occasionally, but often? You are acting like it's just a case of the occasional clerk at a 7-11 who acts this way. What if it's your parents, your friends, your employer, or the local police department? Wouldn't that kinda suck and make life difficult?
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
Huh? Half the murders in the U.S. are committed by blacks. Hence 'white" America has a murder rate on a par with Switzerland.
That leaves the other half of murders committed by non-blacks. Still twice the murder rate of Bermuda, Europe, and other countries on a similar economic level to the USA - and that is their figures *including* the black population. Strip out the murders of their black population, and the murder rate comparing non-black to non-black, or white to white, is lower still than the US.
Regarding your point about Africa, it is a dirt-poor continent filled with mostly 3rd world countries, many of which have some form of civil war going on from time to time, or suffer major political instability. Of course it is going to have more crime and murder. It is hardly comparing like with like. That's why I gave the example of a country that is majority black, yet with similar living standards to the US. Despite having over 50% black population, it has 1/4 of the US murder rate, and 1/2 of the "white" US murder rate. So once again, how is this showing a clear link between race and crime on a global basis? When we compare like with like - black vs white populations when living standards, political stability, education etc are similar, we don't see this huge disparity in crime that some people are claiming.
As I said before, if you can show 2 similar countries or societies, where these factors are broadly similar, and yet the black population is murdering at several times the rate of the white population, then that would constitute evidence. But so far I'm not seeing that. All I see is evidence that poor countries and social groups have higher crime than rich countries and rich social groups, and that the US has far more murders than any other country of similar economic standing.
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
Gee, what do those countries have in common?
Pabst has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to differentiate between correlation and causation. Actually, it's an open question as to whether he can't understand it or just prefers to pretend he doesn't understand it because the imputation of causation lies at the heart of his bigotry.
Here's how it runs. Poor black countries have higher murder rates than rich white countries. Therefore, blacks are more murderous than whites.
At first it seems hard to believe that anyone could buy into such a simplistic analysis. But we're not dealing with brain surgeons here. I prefer to believe that Pabst just can't understand the error, instead of considering the possibility that he actually knows it's BS but needs to maintain the charade in order to keep his bigotry internally consistent.
After all, I'm an optimist at heart
: )
Quote from Hombre:
No it doesn't because that study is false . Think of Sudan, Zimbabwe, Rwanda,Nigeria, Chad, Congo , Haiti , Jamaica.
It just depends who does those statistics.
I agree to an extent, some countries aren't on the list due to lack of statistics. But we can compares ones that are on the list from the same years e.g.
Jamaica 49 murders per 100,000
El Salvador 55.3
or
Russia 19.8
Barbados 7.49
or
Latvia 10
Argentina 9.5
Thailand 8.5
Zambia 7.9
**Zimbabwe 7.2**
or
Ivory Coast 4.07
Dominica 2.74
**USA 5.5**
We also have the issue of comparing like with like. One would expect failed states, war zones, or countries engaging in ethnic cleansing & genocide to have high murder rates. To isolate the effect of race, you need to compare like with like. So compare politically stable majority black countries with other politically stable non-black countries with similar GDP. Compare war zones with other war zones, brutal dictatorships with other brutal dictatorships, failed states with other failed states etc.