Monuments dedicated to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are the next targets

Pretty clear you never served.

There is this thing called valor. It is a trait exhibited by individuals. Those individuals often appear on both sides of a conflict.

If you think we are going to toss our system out because a particularly stupid generation comes along and decides they have the right to judge our culture I think you are in for a bit of a surprise. You don't know your own country.
The only thing Trump served was his ball sack in your mouth.
 
Pretty clear you never served.

There is this thing called valor. It is a trait exhibited by individuals. Those individuals often appear on both sides of a conflict.

If you think we are going to toss our system out because a particularly stupid generation comes along and decides they have the right to judge our culture I think you are in for a bit of a surprise. You don't know your own country.

Those Afghanis, Iraquis, and Vietnamese showed great resolve and valor in defending their land from invaders. Let's erect some monuments for them.
 
Snarkhund wants all of our enemies to have statues and honors given because they "served"

What crock of bullshit is that.... I never met any military person who wants monuments erected to our enemies.

Typical defense of the Confederacy...they served with honor.... yeah they wanted slavery so bad they took up arms against the United States government.

trea·son
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noun
  1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
 
Wait...what about the U.S. soldier that flipped to serve the Taliban or the U.S. soldier that shot up Ft. Hood.... they served so they should have statues dedicated to them right?

Sorry to parse but this part of your post illustrates the problem here.

Leaving your post and walking into a Taliban position to turn yourself in is not valor. Shooting fellow soldiers is not valor.

War is this huge stupid enterprise but in the service of their countries certain people exhibit uncommon courage and skill. Those people tend to be recognized as extraordinary regardless of the stupidity of their cause.

When I served in the 335th Fighter Squadron there was a picture on the wall in the mission briefing room of a North Vietnamese Air Force colonel named Tomb. He had 13 kills and was regarded as the mostly deadly ace of the North. Why would the USAF admire him? Because of valor. He didn't strafe people in chutes. He disengaged from an F-4 he damaged when it was clear it was disabled. He exhibited personal valor and great skill and balls in combat.

Valor is about individuals, not stupid causes.

Apparently civilians are dumber than I thought.
 
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Sorry to parse but this part of your post illustrates the problem here.

Leaving your post and walking into a Taliban position to turn yourself in is not valor. Shooting fellow soldiers is not valor.

War is this huge stupid enterprise but in the service of their countries certain people exhibit uncommon courage and skill. Those people tend to be recognized as extraordinary regardless of the stupidity of their cause.

When I served in the 335th Fighter Squadron there was a picture on the wall in the mission briefing room of a North Vietnamese Air Force colonel named Tomb. He had 13 kills and was regarded as the mostly deadly ace of the North. Why would the USAF admire him? Because of valor. He didn't strafe people in chutes. He disengaged from an F-4 he damaged when it was clear it was disabled. He exhibited personal valor and great skill and balls in combat.

Valor is about individuals, not stupid causes.

Apparently civilians are dumber than I thought.


Where is Tomb's statue on military bases and schools named after him in the U.S.?
Where is this guy's street that was named after him?
Wasn't this guy just defending his country from attack of invading foreigners?
Did the USAF recommend that parades be held in his honor and they rename the USAF base after him?

Apparently you are lying about how the military honors enemies and traitors....

Did you really serve?
 
Where is Tomb's statue on military bases and schools named after him in the U.S.?
Where is this guy's street that was named after him?
Wasn't this guy just defending his country from attack of invading foreigners?
Did the USAF recommend that parades be held in his honor and they rename the USAF base after him?

Apparently you are lying about how the military honors enemies and traitors....

Did you really serve?
Lying?

Wow.

As I said, your lack of service is really evident. No appreciation of history, no sense of honor, no respect for others. This aspect of your online persona is pretty distasteful.

Money doesn't buy class. Fact.
 
I think Washington and Jefferson were great thinkers and political leaders that served their country.

They were also slaveowners and their slave owning history is not hidden, it is a great educational part of their house museums in Monticello and Mount Vernon. It can and should never be separated from all the good that they did for this country and their words shaped the Constitution and the system of government we have. There words and beliefs were spot on, they just really did not practice what they preached and itr is no longer gloosed over or white washed. Again just go to their house museums.

They certainly hold a different place in American history than a Confederate general who took up arms against his own country to defend his right to own slaves and started a rebellion. They deserve a spot in the museums but not a glorified place of honor.

Washington and Jefferson are two of the greatest Americans that ever lived. They deserve a glorified place of honor.

El Culo Ancho is an example of badly education has failed so many.
 
Washington and Jefferson are two of the greatest Americans that ever lived. They deserve a glorified place of honor.

El Culo Ancho is an example of badly education has failed so many.


Uh I praised Jefferson and Washington...they are still my 2 favorite President's despite their obvious personal flaws.

Maybe you should have kept the receipt from the remedial school you attended for reading assistance..
 
Lying?

Wow.

As I said, your lack of service is really evident. No appreciation of history, no sense of honor, no respect for others. This aspect of your online persona is pretty distasteful.

Money doesn't buy class. Fact.


yes you are lying because the military does not honor traitors or the enemy by building them statues and placing them in central squares or naming schools and streets after them. One picture in some guy's office is not the same.

SO unless you provide proof that the U.S. military puts honors on enemy combatants by building them monuments and naming bases and streets and schools after them and celebrating their flags, then you are not being honest.

Little money and military service cannot buy a truth you are fabricating...

I will wait for this proof...

Excuse in 3...2...
 
Lying?

Wow.

As I said, your lack of service is really evident. No appreciation of history, no sense of honor, no respect for others. This aspect of your online persona is pretty distasteful.

Money doesn't buy class. Fact.
Stolen valor confirmed
 
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