Monuments dedicated to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are the next targets

[vanzandt]

I quipped the other day that they would be taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee and putting up one of Chelsea Manning. That was just a joke right? That would never happen right?

Wrong!
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/edward-snowden-julian-assange-chelsea-manning-berlin-statues/

 

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[Tsing Tao]

She was his slave.A slave women could not tell her owner he could not sleep with /rape her.

How do you know what happened between them?

 

[Tony Stark]

How do you know what happened between them?

I know she was his slave and he impregnated her.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I know she was his slave and he impregnated her.

So how do you know she didn't fall in love with him?

 

[Tony Stark]

So how do you know she didn't fall in love with him?

Would you fall in love with someone that owned you as property?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Would you fall in love with someone that owned you as property?

There are numerous cases of prisoners falling in love with captors - look up Stockholm Syndrome. Many slave owners actually treated their slaves very kindly - even though it was still slavery. There were a good number of slaves who actually had better lives as slaves - as crazy as that sounds - than they did on their own in Africa. Quite a few supported and loved their master. It's not a stretch that one could have fallen in love with her master if he showed her affection in return.

The point is, you have no idea what happened but yet throw out claims of "rapist' in true jackass fashion without any evidence whatsoever, while at the same time ignoring a man who is high in your political party that has been accused of sexual harassment and rape and admitted to infidelity while President of the United States.

That, pure and simple, is why you have no credibility here with anyone other than your pal Waggie.

Argue facts, Tony/AK. Facts. At least I could respect you if you did, even if I didn't agree with you.

 

[Tony Stark]

There are numerous cases of prisoners falling in love with captors - look up Stockholm Syndrome. Many slave owners actually treated their slaves very kindly - even though it was still slavery. There were a good number of slaves who actually had better lives as slaves - as crazy as that sounds - than they did on their own in Africa. Quite a few supported and loved their master. It's not a stretch that one could have fallen in love with her master if he showed her affection in return.

The point is, you have no idea what happened but yet throw out claims of "rapist' in true jackass fashion without any evidence whatsoever, while at the same time ignoring a man who is high in your political party that has been accused of sexual harassment and rape and admitted to infidelity while President of the United States.

That, pure and simple, is why you have no credibility here with anyone other than your pal Waggie.

Argue facts, Tony/AK. Facts. At least I could respect you if you did, even if I didn't agree with you.

Stockholm Syndrome is not consent,only an idiot would argue it is. A slave does not have consent to give.Jefferson was a rapist and slave owner.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Stockholm Syndrome is not consent,only an idiot would argue it is. A slave does not have consent to give.Jefferson was a rapist and slave owner.

I'm not saying it was Stockholm Syndrome per se, I'm pointing out that there are different circumstances that arise that boggle the mind where a captor and captive end up falling in love. There were documented cases where slaves cherished their owners, as odd as it sounds to us. It could easily have happened.

The difference between you and I is that I am not sure what happened, and admit to such where you have already passed judgment with no proof whatsoever. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

That is your modus operandi these days:

If it is a narrative of your party, it must be true. If it is an inconvenient fact incriminating your party, ignore it.​