Montana plans to cancel unemployment benefits to address ‘severe workforce shortage’

[gwb-trading]

BS.Most with still work

Most universal income experiments in America have been based on $1000 per month or less. Of course, this amount is a lot less than people are sweeping in under pandemic unemployment.

Sadly the vision of most UBI advocates involves paying even more than pandemic unemployment is paying out. The pandemic unemployment is proof that if you pay people to stay home and cover all of their expenses then the lazy ones will never get a job.

 

[Ricter]

Hearing some good arguments for why (large) inheritances would completely fail.

 

[gwb-trading]

Hearing some good arguments for why (large) inheritances would completely fail.

I concur that large inheritances many times completely fail. Look at all the children of the super wealthy who never worked and turned out to be complete failures.

Of course, there are some who inherited companies or farms -- and turned out to be successful because they worked the business.

Yet for everyone of these stories there is an example of some trust fund baby that inherited piles of cash and was completely irresponsible.

 

[Ricter]

I concur that large inheritances many times completely fail. Look at all the children of the super wealthy who never worked and turned out to be complete failures.

Are they complete failures if they live a life of quiet, harmless leisure without ever working?

 

[MoneyMatthew]

There is one other possibility that is not being discussed. Maybe these companies that are publicly complaining about staffing issues simply suck to work for?

We live in a different age now, even for lower level jobs like warehouse work or food service work there are multiple review sites that have former employees sharing/reviewing their work experiences publicly.

Maybe Billy Bob the foreman is having staffing issues not because of the government payouts or the fact that he is still paying an insulting $8.65 an hour. Maybe nobody wants to work at Billy Bob's company because he treats his employees like shit and is an asshole?

 

[gwb-trading]

Are they complete failures if they live a life of quiet, harmless leisure without ever working?

Many actively cause harm rather than living nice quiet lives.

Being funded to live a life devoid of responsibility carries over to a lot of other areas in their behavior.

Those who believe in funding people not to work should take notice.

 

[Ricter]

Many actively cause harm rather than living nice quiet lives.

True. But for those that don't cause harm, are they failures if they don't work?

 

[gwb-trading]

True. But for those that don't cause harm, are they failures if they don't work?

In my opinion people who do not work or contribute to society are failures.

 

[Ricter]

In my opinion people who do not work or contribute to society are failures.

Fair enough. I assume you would not consider the inheritors of great wealth, i.e. those who do not need to work, but who volunteer or create art, to be failures.

 

[Cuddles]

Fair enough. I assume you would not consider the inheritors of great wealth, i.e. those who do not need to work, but who volunteer or create art, to be failures.

being an artist is a profession so I doubt they'd fit the mold.