Money Management Question

trendisyourfriend said:
Hi all, I have a question about money management.

Jordan Belfort once said in a podcast that money managers who can produce a consistent 25%+ monthly return can make a lot of money in this business. Not only do they have a high return, but they also can command a higher performance fee and management fee from their investors.

Is it absolutely necessary to make 25% a month in order to make money as a money manager?

What if a trader makes 100% a year? Is that still considered top performance?

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In todays world 25% ROR is the bare minimum with decent access, in the 90’s during “wolf of Wall Street” days I’m sure a few guys were doing well above 25% with ease but in this digital era you’ll make 25% just in spread rebates with the right infrastructure.

but on the other hand 100% with no access at face value is definitely good, but it’ll be hard to push that management fee.

Because 25% ROR monthly is easy to come by with access, or someone clever will get that same monthly 25 by scheming 770 accounts. But to be clear 100% yearly interest is great but in this sport top performance numbers is 10x that 100 at the bare minimum
 
trendisyourfriend said:
Hi all, I have a question about money management.

Jordan Belfort once said in a podcast that money managers who can produce a consistent 25%+ monthly return can make a lot of money in this business. Not only do they have a high return, but they also can command a higher performance fee and management fee from their investors.

Is it absolutely necessary to make 25% a month in order to make money as a money manager?

What if a trader makes 100% a year? Is that still considered top performance?

Thanks
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If the money manager can consistently make 5% a month, that is very good.

Beyond that, we have to invest in Madoff.
 
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TheDawn said:
Annual return of 12% is nothing. Nasdaq's annual return is lot higher than that. Even the S&P 500 has returned 20+% in 2021. What's different is that Madoff's return is 10% EVERY SINGLE YEAR with no down years. That's what made it "interesting".
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HE did much better than that;
if you count some of his ''feeder funds'' /curiously steady 13.5-19%:D:D
Easy to discern crypto c*ns like S Bankman Fried.But Mr Madoff had a likable personality like Col Sanders of KY Fried.
And his market makers gave plenty of people good fills on NQ, especially considering the trends LOL:caution::caution:Former chair of NQ;
and one of the first kings of PFOF.
 
maxinger said:
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If the money manager can consistently make 5% a month, that is very good.

Beyond that, we have to invest in Madoff.
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What madoff did 10 years ago, today American and Western European wealth managers and politicians call it “diversification”, “cycles” “put options” ”hedging” “private credit” “market makers” lol
 
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