Middle class revolt

Quote from SteveD:

First of all, I am in commercial real estate and no one is going to "outsource" that type of business.
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Real estate is a fine business ....

Comercial real estate ... not outsourced ... yet. The day may come however when a unified national marketplace occurs for commercial as well. When that niche is fully developed there will be much less need on the commercial side for people .... hope you are on the right side of that wave when it happens .....
 
Quote from TrendyMohawk:

Many with good job security and low barrier to entry:

1. Delta Senior Pilot- $250,000/ year. You may have to spend a few years learning to fly in Florida
2. Valet at Casino- $200 plus in tips a shift plus minimum wage. Qualifications: not drooling in public and knowing how to drive a stick.
3. Skycap at Airport- $300 plus per shift plus a dinky hourly wage or upwards of $100k per year. Most skycaps don't report all of their wages. Qualifications- a crappy attitude
4. Wedding Photographer- $1900 per gig is national average but many earn more. Qualifications- expensive equipment and a short term technical training course. A goatee and fleece vest help to instill trust with the mark.
5. West Coast Longshoremen- $112k/yr for the dumb labor. $136k/yr for the monkeys with the keyboards. $177k for dumb labor foremen/women. Qualifications: A friend on the inside and repeated viewings of On The Waterfront
6. Sommelier- $80k at a swank place plus bad stock tips. Qualifications: a good nose and a snotty attitude.
7. McDonalds Area Manager- My mom was friends with the area manager for the San Fran region. In the late 80's she made almost $100k/yr in base salary and started off on fries. Qualifications: good work ethic and competence.
8. High End Real Estate Agent or Mortgage Broker: $100k plus, depends on the market and how long the bubble lasts. Qualifications: many ex exotic dancers become real estate agents. The mortgage brokerage industry has an even lower barrier to entry.
9. Medical Recruiter/ High Tech Recruiter: $100k plus after a few years. Qualifications: community college degree, phone jockey skills, slick suit
10. Motivational Speakers and Commodities Seminars: six figures plus. Qualifications: confidence
11. Home Improvement Contractor in major city: $100k plus. Qualifications: a few years apprenticeship. Union laborers also tend to make good livings. The IBEW cannot find enough people to pay $30 an hour. Their main qualifications are passing a basic 8th grade Algebra exam and passing a drug screen.
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Excellent post, we're going to be an economic superpower without producing anything, neither goods nor intellectual property as it's all cheaper to produce elsewhere and as is obvious from your list of available opportunities. We're going to remain a superpower by selling each other real estate, losing money to each other in casinos and flying each other on Delta airline planes.

Seriously though, all these opportunities while still available are not new, they've existed for decades together with dozens or even hundreds of other oportunities which have disappeared and have not been replaced.
 
Quote from dddooo:



And even if your job is not oursourceable and you think you're immune - think again. The increased competition for a smaller number of available jobs in this country will still force you to lower your salary requirements. It's not realistic to expect to be making 70K because you job can't be outsourced if others in similar but outsourseable professions are making 30K. Market will very quickly correct this imbalance.
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Crucial point.

Wage arbitrage will still indirectly affect you, even if you believe you're "safe" right now.

At least that's what logic suggests.

Personally, I'm not too worried. Not so much because I'm "safe" (even though I am - as much as anyone is), but because I wasn't banking my future happiness on ever increasing amounts of absolute wealth in the first place. So even though I fancy my chances of surviving with my psychology intact no matter what happens, it still is nicer to be faced with prospects of more wealth rather than less. (Naturally, I still hope for the former, though common sense does seem to suggest the latter.)
 
When people talk about wage arbitrage it looks like everybody forgets that the process goes both ways. China doesn't have unlimited supply of $2/hr engineers. Even now qualified labor there pulls $10-20K. If the economy there keeps growing at 10% soon they will need many more engineers to support the growing infrastructure, railroads, etc. They will start pulling $50K easily, the newly rich chinese will be flying boeing (or more likely airbus) planes to their las vegas vacation or sending their kids to private schools in the US paying the full price tag.

Just because they are the biggest savers now doesn't mean they won't be spending like crazy soon.
 
If you design products and then make them cheaply abroad, profits will be greater. The design jobs are better than manufacturing. Example, Apple Ipod.
 
Yes, a lot of these niche jobs have been around for years. But everyone seems to think that no new ones are being created. The great strength of the US has always been the adaptable, economy.

Good God, the mere fact of posting on this web site did not exist 10 years ago!!!

While you guys are sitting wringing your hands about the possibility that a job may be outsourced, millions of people that are not as smart as you are out making a very nice living, lOL.

Commercial real estate has been enhanced by the internet as one is able to reach a very broad array of potential investors for a small fee.

Good luck with that attitude

SteveD
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Add to this the tidal wave of illegal immigration, with the disruption and resentment it is bringing, and I see a country that is on the verge of becoming ripe for a populist or nationalist demagogue to take power. Of course, our supposed allies think that has already happened.
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..and a growing majority of US voters.

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I agree with dddooo's views. Just because many people in US can make a living nowadays by non-productive jobs (e.g. RE broker), due to the TEMPORARY "kindness of strangers" (for as long as it suits them), it doesn't mean that this situation is sustainable over time. And the hollowing of US economy isn't exactly a recipe for economic and social stability.

People should read Paul Robert's opinions [Roberts, a former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal and a former Contributing Editor of National Review, was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan administration]:

Let me quote:

"Global labor arbitrage is rapidly dismantling the ladders of upward mobility and thereby endangering American political stability."

These articles are must-read imo:
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050923_america.htm
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/050822_hegemony.htm

His entire collection of articles:
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/all_columns.htm
 
Quote from just21:

If you design products and then make them cheaply abroad, profits will be greater. The design jobs are better than manufacturing. Example, Apple Ipod.
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Design jobs are characterized by low productivity, which cannot easily be improved. Manufacturing jobs are characterized by high productivity, which can be improved by capital investment and better design.

Design income is also dependent on intellectual property protection, which is hit or miss, depending on the legal system.

The biggest profits now are outside the system, in illegal drugs, weapons, illegal artifacts and the trade in people for sex work and other indentured work.

People talk about this kind of stuff sometimes at http://www.indexcalls.com
 
Quote from sprucecb:

The biggest profits now are outside the system, in illegal drugs, weapons, illegal artifacts and the trade in people for sex work and other indentured work.
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We've come a long way, baby.

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