Michael Moore Scorns Obama

Not just your pocketbook, but your property, person, and privacy.

Are you REALLY a "true libertarian"? Even though you'd deny people to act freely upon any basis they so choose? You obviously would maintain laws against "racism" by private individuals, hence preventing them from acting in accordance with their own beliefs and preferences. No one who believes that could call themselves a "true libertarian".

I personally lean more toward libertarian nationalism. That is, I believe in libertarian ideals, but I also believe in the concept of a nation. Like, with borders, and national interests. I also believe that there's nothing wrong with a government putting the interests of it's own nation above that of other nations. Just as most any family puts the interest of it's own above that of that of other families. I believe nations are organic entities which occur naturally. Ours is the first to be founded on the principals of the enlightenment (freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, from unreasonable search and seizure, habeas corpus, so forth). Post revolutionary France was also, but they reverted in many ways to the outdated forms of statecraft of their neighbors. However people WITHIN the nation choose to organize and deal with each other is their business, not the government's.

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It is because I am a true libertarian. You can do what you want, as long as it does not affect my pocketbook.

Now phenom will take this to the extreme and send us back to Dodge City, but I am sure most thinking people will understand what it is to be a libertarian.
 
Quote from phenomena:

The old white women told you.

Anyone who didn't support Obama was, and often still IS accused of being "racist". They more or less told you that they were extorted by the PC orthodoxy into supporting him. I personally didn't vote, and thought both candidates were despicable.

Why can't more black dudes could be like this guy:

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Exactly opposite phenom, the old white women are like old black women, they are party line voters live or die. The young white women told me this. Under 30. They are the ones who shot down Hillary. She is too much of a bitch. She is dominated by her man. She thinks she is all that. They crushed Hillary.
 
Ours is the first to be founded on the principals of the enlightenment (freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, from unreasonable search and seizure, habeas corpus, so forth for white males).

Quote from phenomena:

Not just your pocketbook, but your property, person, and privacy.

Are you REALLY a "true libertarian"? Even though you'd deny people to act freely upon any basis they so choose? You obviously would maintain laws against "racism" by private individuals, hence preventing them from acting in accordance with their own beliefs and preferences. No one who believes that could call themselves a "true libertarian".

I personally lean more toward libertarian nationalism. That is, I believe in libertarian ideals, but I also believe in the concept of a nation. Like, with borders, and national interests. I also believe that there's nothing wrong with a government putting the interests of it's own nation above that of other nations. Just as most any family puts the interest of it's own above that of that of other families. I believe nations are organic entities which occur naturally. Ours is the first to be founded on the principals of the enlightenment (freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, from unreasonable search and seizure, habeas corpus, so forth). Post revolutionary France was also, but they reverted in many ways to the outdated forms of statecraft of their neighbors. However people WITHIN the nation choose to organize and deal with each other is their business, not the government's.
 
Quote from phenomena:

Not just your pocketbook, but your property, person, and privacy.

Are you REALLY a "true libertarian"? Even though you'd deny people to act freely upon any basis they so choose? You obviously would maintain laws against "racism" by private individuals, hence preventing them from acting in accordance with their own beliefs and preferences. No one who believes that could call themselves a "true libertarian".

I personally lean more toward libertarian nationalism. That is, I believe in libertarian ideals, but I also believe in the concept of a nation. Like, with borders, and national interests. I also believe that there's nothing wrong with a government putting the interests of it's own nation above that of other nations. Just as most any family puts the interest of it's own above that of that of other families. I believe nations are organic entities which occur naturally. Ours is the first to be founded on the principals of the enlightenment (freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, from unreasonable search and seizure, habeas corpus, so forth). Post revolutionary France was also, but they reverted in many ways to the outdated forms of statecraft of their neighbors. However people WITHIN the nation choose to organize and deal with each other is their business, not the government's.

To be a nation we cannot balkanize. I don't get you bruh. Your theory works great in Holland, but not here. We are unique in our formation, and our composition. Discrimination cannot be allowed under any circumstances, period.

And before you go crying about white discrimination, I would tell you to take it up with your brothers and sisters in the Congress and Senate. That is how our nation works, you know.
 
Funny you should say that, since the only discrimination policies in place discriminate against white people.

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Ours is the first to be founded on the principals of the enlightenment (freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, from unreasonable search and seizure, habeas corpus, so forth for white males).
 
To be a nation we must be free. No one has suggested a policy of balkanization, I have suggested a policy of voluntary association. Big difference, yours is based on regulation, and mine is based on freedom...

Clearly, you haven't been to Holland lately. Although, the most important man in Western politics currently lives there. As for congress, don't you worry, I have. You noticed that Rand Paul was elected ;)

The fact is, that if we don't have freedom, "balkanization" is inevitable. You find this "xenophobia"(preference to live amongst and deal with one's own group) everywhere you find "multicultural" populations. Want to stop the hate? Let people do as they wish... Try to force people to be "the same", and you will always get problems. That's how it is. 60 years of legislation and anti white discrimination hasn't changed that, and another 600 wont either.

Quote from RCG Trader:

To be a nation we cannot balkanize. I don't get you bruh. Your theory works great in Holland, but not here. We are unique in our formation, and our composition. Discrimination cannot be allowed under any circumstances, period.

And before you go crying about white discrimination, I would tell you to take it up with your brothers and sisters in the Congress and Senate. That is how our nation works, you know.
 
You like white people. I get it.

You want to hang with your own kind. I get it.

You want to have the majority crush the basic human rights of the minority?

That I don't get.

Quote from phenomena:

To be a nation we must be free. No one has suggested a policy of balkanization, I have suggested a policy of voluntary association. Big difference, yours is based on regulation, and mine is based on freedom...

Clearly, you haven't been to Holland lately. Although, the most important man in Western politics currently lives there. As for congress, don't you worry, I have. You noticed that Rand Paul was elected ;)

The fact is, that if we don't have freedom, "balkanization" is inevitable. You find this "xenophobia"(preference to live amongst and deal with one's own group) everywhere you find "multicultural" populations. Want to stop the hate? Let people do as they wish... Try to force people to be "the same", and you will always get problems. That's how it is. 60 years of legislation and anti white discrimination hasn't changed that, and another 600 wont either.
 
Hypocrisy, party of 1, your table is ready!!

On the contrary it seems you are quite fine with discrimination, so long as it's only against white people.

Why don't you say what you really mean? Which is that discrimination against non whites can not be allowed under any circumstances, but discrimination against white people is necessary.

" institutions and courts have upheld discrimination against whites when it is done to promote a diverse work or educational environment, even when it was shown to be to the detriment of qualified applicants."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Legal

I guess it doesn't count as "discrimination" when practiced against white people? :confused:

Quote from RCG Trader:

Discrimination cannot be allowed under any circumstances, period.

 
Quote from phenomena:

To be a nation we must be free. No one has suggested a policy of balkanization, I have suggested a policy of voluntary association. Big difference, yours is based on regulation, and mine is based on freedom...

Clearly, you haven't been to Holland lately. Although, the most important man in Western politics currently lives there. As for congress, don't you worry, I have. You noticed that Rand Paul was elected ;)

The fact is, that if we don't have freedom, "balkanization" is inevitable. You find this "xenophobia"(preference to live amongst and deal with one's own group) everywhere you find "multicultural" populations. Want to stop the hate? Let people do as they wish... Try to force people to be "the same", and you will always get problems. That's how it is. 60 years of legislation and anti white discrimination hasn't changed that, and another 600 wont either.

Xenophohia: : fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign

Try again phemon
 
LOL!! Where in god's name have I ever suggested not extending the very same constitutional rights to minorities as to whites? Where have I ever suggested that different races should have different legal rights? Where did I ever suggested that I ONLY want to "hang with my own kind"? Rather, I want the freedom to "hang with", do business with, hire, fire, etc anyone I please, on any basis I so please. I also want racial discrimination in government (which currently happens to target white people) to be abolished.

Again, I NEVER suggested that different legal rights should be extended to different races of people.

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

You like white people. I get it.

You want to hang with your own kind. I get it.

You want to have the majority crush the basic human rights of the minority?

That I don't get.
 
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