Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model

[piezoe]

I read the complaint.

I am not licensed in New York State so I am not going to say it was not a criminal complaint... but if you look at the last few pages there were no prayers seeking incarceration hence there seemed to be no threat of the "formal convictions" piezoe was ranting about.

Jem, I am aware of lawyer speak and that the term judgement is usually used in civil cases whereas the term conviction is generally used in criminal cases. I am using the vernacular in attempting to communicate with Optionpro007. it is that simple. I don't want to muddy the waters with too much legalese. I am not writing a court filing. I am using the term conviction in the sense that it is understood by the general public. In the case of impeachment for example, we use the term "conviction" to describe the instance where the impeached is found guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But this is a conviction without sentencing, i.e., without judgement.

Let's please avoid nit picking, and stick with the important question. Is there evidence of Trump and his Family's wrong doing in the case of the Donald J. Trump Foundation? Yes, there is. Its a civil case.

 

[piezoe]

I will give you this one. We shall where this leads. I will only add that if Trump stated he was not willing to settle this lawsuit, it could mean that he expects to win. Time will tell.

Yes that's sensible. Wait for the outcome. Of course you are aware that Trump has maintained that he doesn't settle law suits, he always wins them -- just another one of his absurd remarks. If he tells you he is not going to settle the Foundation case, how would you know whether to believe him? You wouldn't. He'll settle. The case is very damning with very clear evidence. He has broken the law. Why would he do such a dumb thing and think he could get away with it considering that he is so much in the public eye. It makes no sense. That's one of the several reasons i am convinced he has a serious mental problem.. He is not acting rationally.

 

[jem]

1. Its ironic you are ripping on Trump rip for misrepresentation in a civil context...(civil fraud) as you are attempting to pretend what you wrote did not mean what it says because it was in the "vernacular" of apparently incorrect usage of legal language written for the benefit of optionpro....

Perhaps you should have been representing trump in the Trump University law suit. That is one hell of mouthful of bullshit.
When you said there was voluminous evidence of illegal activity what vernacular definition was that?


This is what you wrote to start off your post...

"You have missed a great deal, it turns out. You need to be become a regular reader of WAPO. Although it is true that the preponderance of the evidence that is so far publicly available is in the nature of circumstantial evidence, as in for example, "Mr. Trump was found at the scene of the crime with a smoking revolver in his hand, but there is, as yet, no evidence that the bullet recovered from the victim came from that particular revolver. Mr. Trump claims that he was shooting pigeons in the park and just happened to stumble on the body of a 'very bad person.' "

In addition to the voluminous circumstantial evidence implicating Mr. Trump in illegal activity in general..."

Jem, I am aware of lawyer speak and that the term judgement is usually used in civil cases whereas the term conviction is generally used in criminal cases. I am using the vernacular in attempting to communicate with Optionpro007. it is that simple. I don't want to muddy the waters with too much legalese. I am not writing a court filing. I am using the term conviction in the sense that it is understood by the general public. In the case of impeachment for example, we use the term "conviction" to describe the instance where the impeached is found guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But this is a conviction without sentencing, i.e., without judgement.

Let's please avoid nit picking, and stick with the important question. Is there evidence of Trump and his Family's wrong doing in the case of the Donald J. Trump Foundation? Yes, there is. Its a civil case.

 

[piezoe]

1. Its ironic you are ripping on Trump rip for misrepresentation in a civil context...(civil fraud) as you are attempting to pretend what you wrote did not mean what it says because it was in the "vernacular" of apparently incorrect usage of legal language written for the benefit of optionpro....

Perhaps you should have been representing trump in the Trump University law suit. That is one hell of mouthful of bullshit.
When you said there was voluminous evidence of illegal activity what vernacular definition was that?


This is what you wrote to start off your post...

"You have missed a great deal, it turns out. You need to be become a regular reader of WAPO. Although it is true that the preponderance of the evidence that is so far publicly available is in the nature of circumstantial evidence, as in for example, "Mr. Trump was found at the scene of the crime with a smoking revolver in his hand, but there is, as yet, no evidence that the bullet recovered from the victim came from that particular revolver. Mr. Trump claims that he was shooting pigeons in the park and just happened to stumble on the body of a 'very bad person.' "

In addition to the voluminous circumstantial evidence implicating Mr. Trump in illegal activity in general..."

I thought it was a rather good example of circumstantial evidence, don't you? Or maybe they didn't teach you what that is. Re the D.J. Trump Foundation matter, maybe you should wait for the judgement before opening your mouth. Better to be silent and thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

[exGOPer]