Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model

This is of course complete absurdity . Virtually everyone wishes Trump were a good and honest President whose word could be trusted. No person devoid of a hirrible conflict of interest, wants him to be a Jackass. "Evil" is the wrong word to describe Trump. He's a con artist and a fraudster. Maybe your OK with him taking a tax break on a Foundation were he is breaking all the rules and using it as his personal tax advantaged slush fund, but I am not. And as I said, all you have to do is look up the filing to see all the hard evidence. You have confused evidence with conviction. He avoids conviction, just as most wealthy are able to do, in civil legal actions by settling out of court. (He lies about this too, as about virtually everything) He ends up paying big fines and restitution if the Prosecutor is representing the People, or capitulating and paying big settlements to the plaintiffs, when private citizens are the aggrieved parties. Informally I would say he is a "Jackass." More formally, I would say he suffers from a severe mental disorder.
Again, no evidence to support your claims.

If you really think Trump abused his foundation, even though no charges have been brought up and even though the foundation gave more out than it received, I wonder what your thoughts are on the Clinton Foundation that received more than $145 million from Russian uranium company executives, or the fact that more than 40% (don't recall the number precisely) of the people who visited Clinton while she was Secretary of State happened to also be donors of her Foundation. What a fucking coincidence, don't you agree?
 
even though no charges have been brought up
Where have you been? He's been formally charged! What is wrong with you? Or do you know this and are just lying.
New York charges Trump, his family and its foundation with 'persistent ...
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-charity-new-york-suit-20180614-story.html
Jun 14, 2018 - The New York Attorney general files a scathing lawsuit against President Trump ... The foundation violated those pledges, the suit alleges. ... The lawsuit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation also named three of his adult ...
New York Attorney General Sues Trump Foundation After 2-Year ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/.../trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.htm...
Jun 14, 2018 - The New York State attorney general's office filed a scathingly worded lawsuit on Thursday taking aim at the Donald J. Trump Foundation, ...

I don't want to be impolite, so it's best that you don't bother to respond to my posts anymore. As try as I might to be respectful, you may leave me with no choice but the alternative.
 
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you once again seem to confuse civil lawsuits with risk of criminal convictions.

25 million to a avoid a conviction...

those class actions suits are civil suits which carry no risk of criminal penalties. where do you come with this stuff?

you really need to take a year of law school.

additionally collusion is not a crime.
if it were hillary, her lawyers and the FBI leadership would be in jail for colluding with russian spies and steele when paying for russian agents to develop the dossier.

don't get me wrong... they may get trump via Cohen... but so far there has been no showing of illegal collusion... whenever the heck that would be.




You have missed a great deal, it turns out. You need to be become a regular reader of WAPO. Although it is true that the preponderance of the evidence that is so far publicly available is in the nature of circumstantial evidence, as in for example, "Mr. Trump was found at the scene of the crime with a smoking revolver in his hand, but there is, as yet, no evidence that the bullet recovered from the victim came from that particular revolver. Mr. Trump claims that he was shooting pigeons in the park and just happened to stumble on the body of a 'very bad person.' "

In addition to the voluminous circumstantial evidence implicating Mr. Trump in illegal activity in general, there is some hard evidence that is now publicly known. Mr. Trump, your President, has of course already been a defendant in a numerous civil suits and has used his money to escape from some serious criminal charges as well. He routinely avoids formal conviction by agreeing to settle out of court for substantial sums. One instance that even the most naive are familiar with is his participation in Fraud with regard to his bogus Trump University which cost him 25 million to avoid a conviction. Another well known instance is when his former wife accused him of Rape, a serious crime for which poor people have been sent to prison. He did the same in that case, i.e., a large financial settlement made to a former wife bought her retraction of the charge, and avoided having the case end up in court. When he settles he tries to get the details sealed and a non-disclosure agreement from the plaintiff. An innocent man does not need that protection nor does an innocent man involve himself in over 4000 lawsuits in one lifetime. Here is just a sampling of the voluminous circumstantial evidence of Trump's corruption and law breaking. For more evidence I would refer you back to the source you cited, viz., the "Washington Post" and also any number of "Vanity Fair" articles on Trump should prove illuminating.

A much abbreviated list of strong circumstanial evidence of corruption would include all of those points raised by ExGOPer here: https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/the-trump-russia-collusion-count-definitive-list.323154/. A person who wants to bury their head in the sand would say, "well most of those things did not involve trump." But of course they involved Trump. I can confidently assure you he had knowledge of every bit of this. Furthermore Trump hired Russian agents as both his Campaign Manager and his National Security advisor. That's direct evidence that could be introduced should he eventually be tried for Treason.

Trump fairly recently paid ~400 million in cash for certain off shore properties. Trump will not voluntarily release his tax returns, and his bank accounts are of course private, so there is no way for the media to get hold of the information that would prove that Trump did not have access to 400 million of his own cash. But people rather familiar with the transaction have remarked that this sum would have been impossible for trump to raise from his cash flow and savings based on Trumps own admissions and his known holdings. Ergo a rational person would conclude the money was borrowed. But the sellers have no information as to the source of the funds. They are under the impression it was unencumbered cash. If the money was borrowed, it might have been a 'signature loan,' perhaps from "buddy" or 'wealthy benefactor' with no collateral required, otherwise there would have been liens involved. Or still another possibility is that the money came via illegal money laundering operations. The properties bought are all hemorrhaging a lot of money,i.e., big money losers. Let's draw or own conclusions here.

Currently Mr. Trump is the defendant, along with his family members, of a suit filed By the New York Attorney General, alleging "persistent illegal activity" in regard to the "Donald J. Trump Foundation." Below are just a few of the allegations in the filing that there is hard evidence to back. You'll find the specific detail on all the evidence in the filings. That's what you wanted isn't it!. I am not inclined to look the filing up for you, because your apparent blindness to hard evidence plus the mountain of circumstantial evidence that exists for Trump's illegal activities neither bothers me nor makes me feel any obligation to try and convince you of anything. I am going to leave the convincing up to prosecutors and the courts. Enjoy your bliss I say.

A few of the allegations in the suit filed by the New York A.G., naming Trump and his family are:
'extensive support' to the then-candidate’s 2016 campaign, in violation of campaign-finance laws; $5000 being used to advertise Trump Hotels; $10,000 spent on a giant portrait of the president, later found on display at the the sports bar at Trump’s Doral golf resort; and $258,000 that was used to settle lawsuits against Trump and his businesses, including $158,000 paid to a guy who sued the Trump National Golf Club after it failed to pony up a promised $1 million for scoring a hole-in-one at a charity tournament


And, by the way, in this post I've mostly ignored the overwhelming portion of circumstantial evidence for Trumps extensive, illegal money laundering activities involving Russian Oligarchs who provide the financing for his many shady enterprises. Also, I have specifically not gone into his clear violation of the terms of his lease on the Washington D.C. Hotel, nor his persistent, clear violation of the Emollient's clause of the Constitution, on which there are pending suits.

Don't be surprised if Trump's Tax Returns figure front and center in this new, New York suit!!! Now it is only a matter of time before we find out whether he will do jail time -- after he has been removed from office of course-- and what the extent of damage he has done to the Republican party will be. On the other hand, perhaps he will go on to serve eight glorious years as "a stable genius" (his characterization, not mine) and nothing more will be said of his criminal activities. The prosecutors will all slink away with their tails between their legs. At least Mr. Trump's supporters can always hope. Regardless, just as Ingrid Bergman and Humphrey Bogart will always have Paris, they will always have 'Benghazi,' the 'Witch Hunt,' 'Fake News,' the 'missing emails,' and 'Lock Her Up!' And the rest of us will always have the "Orange One" with the little dick.
 
you once again seem to confuse civil lawsuits with risk of criminal convictions.

25 million to a avoid a conviction...

those class actions suits are civil suits which carry no risk of criminal penalties. where do you come with this stuff?

you really need to take a year of law school.
:rolleyes: Please read my posts in entirety before responding. To wit: (for your benefit I've adopted a phrase from legal jargon you'll understand. :D)

"He avoids conviction, just as most wealthy are able to do, in civil legal actions by settling out of court. (He lies about this too, as about virtually everything) He ends up paying big fines and restitution if the Prosecutor is representing the People, or capitulating and paying big settlements to the plaintiffs, when private citizens are the aggrieved parties."
 
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i did... almost all you points in that post were ridiculous. some were laughable...
so which points do you think were serious and which were jokes.

by the way I am not supporting trump... I am questioning your legal analysis.

Please read my posts in entirety before responding.
 
Where have you been? He's been formally charged! What is wrong with you? Or do you know this and are just lying.
New York charges Trump, his family and its foundation with 'persistent ...
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-charity-new-york-suit-20180614-story.html
Jun 14, 2018 - The New York Attorney general files a scathing lawsuit against President Trump ... The foundation violated those pledges, the suit alleges. ... The lawsuit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation also named three of his adult ...
New York Attorney General Sues Trump Foundation After 2-Year ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/.../trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.htm...
Jun 14, 2018 - The New York State attorney general's office filed a scathingly worded lawsuit on Thursday taking aim at the Donald J. Trump Foundation, ...

I don't want to be impolite, so it's best that you don't bother to respond to my posts anymore. As try as I might to be respectful, you may leave me with no choice but the alternative.
OK I will refrain from replying to your postings as derailing you for your biased views can cause you unease.

Yes, if this or any foundation is found guilty of committing crimes they should be punished, be it the Trump Foundation or the Clinton Foundation. So far all we have are allegations. And from what I hear chances of criminal charges are quite small. If there was a little tiny wimpy chance of there being criminal charges possible, the state would not be asking for an economic settlement. Isn't that obvious?

But keep believing all that the MSM has to offer.
 
I read the complaint.

I am not licensed in New York State so I am not going to say it was not a criminal complaint... but if you look at the last few pages there were no prayers seeking incarceration hence there seemed to be no threat of the "formal convictions" piezoe was ranting about.


OK I will refrain from replying to your postings as derailing you for your biased views can cause you unease.

Yes, if this or any foundation is found guilty of committing crimes they should be punished, be it the Trump Foundation or the Clinton Foundation. So far all we have are allegations. And from what I hear chances of criminal charges are quite small. If there was a little tiny wimpy chance of there being criminal charges possible, the state would not be asking for an economic settlement. Isn't that obvious?

But keep believing all that the MSM has to offer.
 
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I read the complaint.

I am not licensed in New York State so I am not going to say it was not a criminal complaint... but if you look at the last few pages there were no prayers seeking incarceration hence there seemed to be no threat of the formal convictions" piezoe was ranting about.
I am not a lawyer, and finding unbiased reporting on this issue is not easy.

I found this article in theconversation.com, not sure if it is left or right, but they conclude criminal charges are unlikely.

https://theconversation.com/as-new-...e-law-criminal-charges-remain-unlikely-100315
 
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So far all we have are allegations.
No ! We have allegations that followed from a bunch of facts, i.e., evidence that are easily shown to be either true or false. You wanted evidence. It's in the filing. Furthermore you stated there were no charges. There are charges. And they are formal charges filed with the court based on the evidence included in the filing. Everything you have said so far is wrong and easily shown to be so. I will not show you, because I have no interest in doing so. But you should have an interest in not being deceived, I would think. Any one who wanted to could easily show you the charges and the evidence. But why bother, in your case, your ignorance is bliss.
 
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No ! We have allegations that followed from a whole big bunch of alleged facts, i.e., alleged evidence. The fact that the evidence is alleged before there is a disposition does not make it non-evidence. You wanted evidence. It's in the filing. Furthermore you stated there were no charges. There are charges. And they are formal charges filed with the court based on the evidence included in the filing. Everything you have said so far is wrong and easily shown to be so. I will not show you, because I have no interest in doing so. But you should have an interest in not being deceived, I would think. Any one who wanted to could easily show you the charges and the evidence. But why bother, in your case, your ignorance is bliss.
I will give you this one. We shall where this leads. I will only add that if Trump stated he was not willing to settle this lawsuit, it could mean that he expects to win. Time will tell.
 
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