Memphis riots , Tyre Nichols

[gwb-trading]

NY Times analysis of the Tyre Nichols tape show he was issued 71 commands by cops over 13 minutes, many of them contradictory or impossible to obey. In other words, there was literally NOTHING he could do to save himself from being beaten to death.

71 Commands in 13 Minutes: When Tyre Nichols Couldn't Comply With Impossible Orders, Police Assaulted Him
https://news.yahoo.com/71-commands-13-minutes-tyre-124559371.html

 

[piezoe]

Biden wants to give over 30 billion to police and hire thousands more cops.30 billion to police and thousands more uneducated poorly trained new cops with know reform attached will lead to more police brutality,I cant vote for that.He should have been honest and told people that was his plan during the George Floyd protest.

I am not in favor of that, but the alternative is much worse. Sometimes a compromise is the best we can do. If we could get the Floyd act passed that would be an important step in the right direction. We both want the same thing. It's a matter of what's the best we can do as individuals.

 

[Cuddles]

I am not in favor of that, but the alternative is much worse. Sometimes a compromise is the best we can do. If we could get the Floyd act passed that would be an important step in the right direction. We both want the same thing. It's a matter of what's the best we can do as individuals.

I think we have to be honest when a politician sells us a bag of dog shit and not delude ourselves. It's clear Biden did fuck all for police accountability, voter protections, or holding MAGA et.al responsible for their crimes despite campaign promises. It's easy to propose a bill and do absolutely nothing to exert pressure on the holdouts or offering fig leafs to moderate repugs to give said bill a chance in hell.

Yes the alternative is worse but lacking regress is still no progress.

 

[Nine_Ender]

In 2020 70% of the US economy were from Biden counties.Lets us know when that actually switches to republican counties.

Guess where most of the poorest states are ? Conservative confederate states.

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Facts won't deter "Beautiful Stranger" he still thinks the US election was fraudulent and that Donald Trump is a successful ethical business man.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Go back and check your facts on this latest incident regarding Mr. Tyre. It’s no wonder you’re totally lost, you don’t even bother to try to get this stuff right.

As to your other characterizations, this country has always a less educated class and drug and alcohol addicts, drop outs, unemployables, etc. You problem is that those numbers are lower in democrat states. By and large democrat states are better than your preferred way of governance. But again this means nothing to you because you don’t even bother to take an objective view.

And yes, it’s mostly about poverty. The stress on the people living in poverty, the stress on the cops policing impoverished areas it’s all a powder keg. People not living in poverty of any race rarely commit violent crimes and don’t forget this unit was focused on reducing violent crime.

Facts don't deter dumb asses like "Tree Frog Trader". The main difference now is these fools are all over social media thinking they are experts on things and have to be heard. Even if it's very easy to see data that refutes their theories. He's a rather ordinary fellow with lower then average critical thinking skills ( I could say worse but I won't speculate ). But he craves to be thought of as some deep thinker that needs to be heard on so many topics and current events.

Unfortunately a lot of these fools got organized and made maximum damage on this planet in recent years and it needs to stop. Election fraud, Brexit, the proliferation of guns, Covid disinformation, ... . It's all pretty stupid and mostly unnecessary.

 

[piezoe]

I think we have to be honest when a politician sells us a bag of dog shit and not delude ourselves. It's clear Biden did fuck all for police accountability, voter protections, or holding MAGA et.al responsible for their crimes despite campaign promises. It's easy to propose a bill and do absolutely nothing to exert pressure on the holdouts or offering fig leafs to moderate repugs to give said bill a chance in hell.

Yes the alternative is worse but lacking regress is still no progress.

Those seem valid points. In the end we got zero progress on police reform. We can't know exactly how much effort Joe put into arm twisting. I do know, according to the reports , that Booker and another Senator whose name escapes me worked long and hard to bring enough Republicans on board to overcome a filibuster. (There was probably a couple Democrats who were unwilling to take on the Police Union as well.) I know Biden publicly, at least, always voiced strong support for the bill, but how strong was he behind the scenes? I don't Know. What I do know however is that Trump said he would veto the bill. And that right there indicates a chasm between Biden and Trump on the George Floyd bill. I have a hard time, therefore, understanding the reasoning of anyone that says they would vote for Trump in preference to Biden because Biden was not able to push the Floyd Bill through. In the end don't we have to recognize that the Senate was split 51/50 with the crazy filibuster rule in place, because Sinema and Manchin would not go with a rule change. Biden was weak there too. It's so disappointing to know how much progress was foreclosed on because of those two Senators.


Maxine Waters says Manchin and Sinema 'don't give a darn ...
https://thehill.com › homenews › house › 3835405-ma...
23 hours ago — The bill named after George Floyd would ban chokeholds and no-knock warrants for all federal law enforcement agencies, create a national ...


Will Sen. Kyrsten Sinema sink voting rights AND police reform?
https://www.azcentral.com › ej-montini › 2021/04/26 › se...
Apr 26, 2021 — The bill, called the For the People Act, would do things like provide automatic voter registration, restore the Voting Rights Act, protect ...


Democrats block 'weak' GOP police reform bill, Arizona ...
https://www.azmirror.com › 2020/06/24 › democrats-bl...
Jun 24, 2020 — Sinema said the bill was being used for “political games” and chastised Republicans for not working in a bipartisan manner. “A process without ...

 

[easymon1]

 

[Cuddles]

Facts don't deter dumb asses like "Tree Frog Trader". The main difference now is these fools are all over social media thinking they are experts on things and have to be heard. Even if it's very easy to see data that refutes their theories. He's a rather ordinary fellow with lower then average critical thinking skills ( I could say worse but I won't speculate ). But he craves to be thought of as some deep thinker that needs to be heard on so many topics and current events.

Unfortunately a lot of these fools got organized and made maximum damage on this planet in recent years and it needs to stop. Election fraud, Brexit, the proliferation of guns, Covid disinformation, ... . It's all pretty stupid and mostly unnecessary.

treefrog is just logorrhea, never arriving at cohesive or relevant points.

 

[Cuddles]

Those seem valid points. In the end we got zero progress on police reform. We can't know exactly how much effort Joe put into arm twisting. I do know, according to the reports , that Booker and another Senator whose name escapes me worked long and hard to bring enough Republicans on board to overcome a filibuster. (There was probably a couple Democrats who were unwilling to take on the Police Union as well.) I know Biden publicly, at least, always voiced strong support for the bill, but how strong was he behind the scenes? I don't Know. What I do know however is that Trump said he would veto the bill. And that right there indicates a chasm between Biden and Trump on the George Floyd bill. I have a hard time, therefore, understanding the reasoning of anyone that says they would vote for Trump in preference to Biden because Biden was not able to push the Floyd Bill through. In the end don't we have to recognize that the Senate was split 51/50 with the crazy filibuster rule in place, because Sinema and Manchin would not go with a rule change. Biden was weak there too. It's so disappointing to know how much progress was foreclosed on because of those two Senators.


Maxine Waters says Manchin and Sinema 'don't give a darn ...
https://thehill.com › homenews › house › 3835405-ma...
23 hours ago — The bill named after George Floyd would ban chokeholds and no-knock warrants for all federal law enforcement agencies, create a national ...


Will Sen. Kyrsten Sinema sink voting rights AND police reform?
https://www.azcentral.com › ej-montini › 2021/04/26 › se...
Apr 26, 2021 — The bill, called the For the People Act, would do things like provide automatic voter registration, restore the Voting Rights Act, protect ...


Democrats block 'weak' GOP police reform bill, Arizona ...
https://www.azmirror.com › 2020/06/24 › democrats-bl...
Jun 24, 2020 — Sinema said the bill was being used for “political games” and chastised Republicans for not working in a bipartisan manner. “A process without ...



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/walters-manchin-sinema-police-reform

If Joe put any effort into the points I outlined, he sucks as a politician as I heard nothing about it.

 

[Tony Stark]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498854872564781057

Fuck Joe Biden.That piece of shit stands for absolutely nothing and goes with whatever the national sentiment is at the moment.Nichols parents should have told him to go fuck himself and should be giving interviews reminding people of his fuck you to police reform supporters at his previous SOTU and wanting to give 30+ billion to police and hire thousands more uneducated poorly trained cops with no reform required.