Memphis riots , Tyre Nichols

You are not being fair to Biden.


I disagree.Before election it was BLM and police reform.

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After the election its fund the police and back the blue .




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If he had been campaigning on fund the police and back the blue and giving billions to police with no reform attached in 2020 I wouldn't be mad at him.I wouldn't have volunteered ,donated and voted for him either as I wont be doing in 2024.I also doubt he would have won if he had been campaigning on back the blue during The BLM protests.
 
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For the record Mr Nichols worked at FedEx and had no criminal record. So let’s keep these things straight. There is no reason to impugn his character.

I was impugning your argument that poverty is the cause of crime and I saw signs that he was not in poverty. You have pointed out that he has a job. So that makes my point. Hows does poverty take him into this crime scene then.

And similarly, I said that until recently the police officers presumably were getting paychecks. So how does poverty function as the root cause of their being part of this crime scene then?

As discussed, your one-trick pony argument fails in this instance.

And you might want to spend some time out on your Dem Plantations to see how things are going. You dems are famous for concluding that if things are fine for you that they are fine for the people who voted for you. Spend some time out with your people on the Dem Plantation in Chicago and tell us about how swimmingly well things are there.

You guys are the direct cause of a massive drug and human trafficking operation and could care less about the consequences. If things are groovy for you, then all is well. You selfish pricks should be stripped of your citizenship. You won't be happy until every American family has lost at least two members to drugs and until every little girl between El Paso and Tierra Del Fuego at the tip of South American is raped, mutilated and sold. Try thinking and acting like an American rather than a Democrat for once.
 
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This really sucks for him. He got stopped in the wrong city in Tennessee. If only he were stopped in Nashville things would have turned out much different.

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In that same vein, it is often found that bad apples with serious prior complaints are being "carried" without being removed. That is an area where higher command can be/is either part of the problem or part of the solution. As I said, to GWB, I don't know. And I don't know the history of the department. Just do an independent investigation. I am not handing out medals to police chiefs just yet as some are for their taking mop up action. But if -upon investigation- things have been in a state of improvement I have no problem with a person holding up well under examination and receiving whatever credit is due.

I have heard two supposed pundits say that that the "Scorpion Team" was known to be a rogue unit. I have absofrigginglutely no way of knowing one way or the other if that is true. Let the circumstances be reviewed.


Well there have been many storeis of anti gang units in LA and CHI and NY having quasi rogue powers given the type of work they undertook and the means they needed to get info from people or chase down bad guys. It would not surprise me if that was a common theme and sometimes these guys didnt have an off switch.
 
Its sad that it takes resisting police to find the bad cops and the bad training and bad authority


I think that is what all the protests have been about...we know about the bad training and bad authority since the 60s....
 
Well there have been many storeis of anti gang units in LA and CHI and NY having quasi rogue powers given the type of work they undertook and the means they needed to get info from people or chase down bad guys. It would not surprise me if that was a common theme and sometimes these guys didnt have an off switch.

I heard someone (on Fox so some may want to dismiss it and skip what he said, and that is fine) spin out a theory that may or may not have merit but here it is:

He, a black guy himself, said that when he saw the video his first thought was that that looked like a gang revenge beating they were giving him and that some of these officers themselves may have been gang members earlier in life. And his point was not that they were doomed to act like gang members but that without adequate training, and without a command officer/sergeant there that just disintegrated into gang rivalry beating behavior.

I talked with a guy once about how he witnessed some grim out of control stuff in Vietnam by some units but said "thankfully we had good officers." You see that amongst the Russian soldiers now too. They have inadequate training and no competent command officers nearby and it gets ugly and barbaric very fast.
 
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Well there have been many storeis of anti gang units in LA and CHI and NY having quasi rogue powers given the type of work they undertook and the means they needed to get info from people or chase down bad guys. It would not surprise me if that was a common theme and sometimes these guys didnt have an off switch.


All those constitutional rights violating units need to be disbanded imo.I'm sure the millions they pay in lawsuits could be put to better use.
 
I was impugning your argument that poverty is the cause of crime and I saw signs that he was not in poverty. You have pointed out that he has a job. So that makes my point. Hows does poverty take him into this crime scene then.

And similarly, I said that until recently the police officers presumably were getting paychecks. So how does poverty function as the root cause of their being part of this crime scene then?

As discussed, your one-trick pony argument fails in this instance.

And you might want to spend some time out on your Dem Plantations to see how things are going. You dems are famous for concluding that if things are fine for you that they are fine for the people who voted for you. Spend some time out with your people on the Dem Plantation in Chicago and tell us about how swimmingly well things are there.

You guys are the direct cause of a massive drug and human trafficking operation and could care less about the consequences. If things are groovy for you, then all is well. You selfish pricks should be stripped of your citizenship. You won't be happy until every American family has lost at least two members to drugs and until every little girl between El Paso and Tierra Del Fuego at the tip of South American is raped, mutilated and sold. Try thinking and acting like an American rather than a Democrat for once.

Youre very shallow. The explanation is right there for you. This unit was created to combat gun violence in a high poverty area, where crime correlates. Mr. Nichols caught up in that situation. As discussed and went over your head, we are asking too much of the police and incidents like this are the result.

Policing cannot fix the gun violence problem. I get that will make your brain explode but it is much too big and there will be too many incidents like this which will ultimately undermine sustaining pressure on the community to even make small reductions. And the reason why is because the crime and violence is mostly a result of poverty.
 
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