No, just that there's something wrong with what they're watching. And they're too lazy to take the time to think it through. Probably saving their energy for a sermon on target practice.
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Considering who was recently elected president, that would be correct.
Mr. Foresight, for you and all other liberals on this site, this was taken from the comments section from the link provided. It is a pretty clear and straight forward diagnosis imo.
Mike Real-Truth john doe • 5 days ago
John Doe, I'm following your logic, but I'm afraid that maybe you don't recognize your own biases, which skew your view of the facts. For example, 1) You share a popular and false perception of FNC viewers, which is constantly promulgated by left-leaning activists. 2) You believe other media is simply giving you the unbiased news. It feels unbiased to you because much of it is inline with your world view. Let me start with 1) perception of the FNC viewers, Rush Limbaugh listeners etc. You said, "Fox... to get it's viewers to not change the channel." You paint this picture of viewers who are only aware of the conservative point of view since they were born and bred on FNC and if only the FNC viewer would consider alternative points of view, they wouldn't have such a narrow understanding of the issues. Fox didn't make all of their viewers conservative, conservatives formed their world view by their own life experiences and opinions formed from many sources of information. FNC started in 1997, were conservatives invented in 1997? Seventeen years after Reagan first won the presidency? Most of us already know the center-left point of view, we can't avoid it, it's everywhere, from grade school through university, in entertainment etc. We will listen to a rare conservative source like FNC because it is often the only source offering a different perspective and another whole set of proven facts (usually, not always). In my experience there are low, medium and high information people who lean left or right, they exist on both sides. In fact, I would say many moderately informed people on the left often can't accurately articulate the conservative position. They can recite much of what they have heard from The Daily Show, Bill Maher or their university professor, but rarely understand the conservative point of view. Now let's talk about me...Yup, I will watch Fox News and I'm fully aware of the conservative spin, particularly in the commentary shows. The actual news hour is more straight forward, but there is also built-in bias that exhibits itself during the news hour, not because of lies, but because of the stories they choose to cover and that is mostly the problem with all news organizations. It's not that "Faux News Lies", which every 20-year old has been programed to say by high ranking leftists, it's that all news organizations cherry pick the facts. Your premiss about folks like me not changing the channel, a channel that didn't exist before 1997. ...I grew up watching Phil Donahue and obviously all of the very liberal entertainers, who you apparently believe are just simply giving us entertainment? Before Fox, during the 1980's, I would watch CNN for hours at a time, I'm just a news hound I guess. I still watch CNN, but I also watch Democracy Now, including Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman and the David Pakman show - talk about biased!!!!! Rachel Maddow will give her true facts and figures, but again, leaving out the critical info that could cause a viewer to form another opinion. The irony is, many FNC viewers know the opposite point of view, it's hard to avoid because of it's prevalence throughout our culture. However, many left-leaning minds live their lives in this ever expanding echo chamber, from university to popular culture, they are fully exposed to the liberal way, and what do they know about FNC? They know "Faux lies". They don't seem to have spent much time watching FNC, but they know the "everybody"(in their echo chamber) knows FNC is "fake news"! John Doe, As far as you believing other media sources outside of FNC are "simply giving you the news", I don't think you recognize your own group think or the liberal culture we are living in. To illustrate my point all I can do is name these popular liberal sources of news and TV entertainment media and you can try to name the conservative equivalent, without using Limbaugh and FNC over and over. Then maybe you will recognize the left's curious preoccupation with 1 news channel. What is the conservative equivalent to" MSNBC and all of their shows? PBS and all of their shows? Democracy Now and all of their shows? MTV News? Every major US Newspaper who supported Clinton (almost all)? Shows who consistently feed their viewers news on serious topics, like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Seth Meyers, Oprah, Chelsea Handler, The View etc. These aren't people simply giving us the news or entertainment, many of them are extremely hostile to the conservative point of view, there is no denying that the popular culture in the US has moved way to the left in recent years. In light of the liberals'/ leftists' nearly total control of our culture, their obsession toward 1 news channel is interesting and frankly, a little scary.
Mike Real-Truth john doe • 5 days ago
John Doe, I'm following your logic, but I'm afraid that maybe you don't recognize your own biases, which skew your view of the facts. For example, 1) You share a popular and false perception of FNC viewers, which is constantly promulgated by left-leaning activists. 2) You believe other media is simply giving you the unbiased news. It feels unbiased to you because much of it is inline with your world view. Let me start with 1) perception of the FNC viewers, Rush Limbaugh listeners etc. You said, "Fox... to get it's viewers to not change the channel." You paint this picture of viewers who are only aware of the conservative point of view since they were born and bred on FNC and if only the FNC viewer would consider alternative points of view, they wouldn't have such a narrow understanding of the issues. Fox didn't make all of their viewers conservative, conservatives formed their world view by their own life experiences and opinions formed from many sources of information. FNC started in 1997, were conservatives invented in 1997? Seventeen years after Reagan first won the presidency? Most of us already know the center-left point of view, we can't avoid it, it's everywhere, from grade school through university, in entertainment etc. We will listen to a rare conservative source like FNC because it is often the only source offering a different perspective and another whole set of proven facts (usually, not always). In my experience there are low, medium and high information people who lean left or right, they exist on both sides. In fact, I would say many moderately informed people on the left often can't accurately articulate the conservative position. They can recite much of what they have heard from The Daily Show, Bill Maher or their university professor, but rarely understand the conservative point of view. Now let's talk about me...Yup, I will watch Fox News and I'm fully aware of the conservative spin, particularly in the commentary shows. The actual news hour is more straight forward, but there is also built-in bias that exhibits itself during the news hour, not because of lies, but because of the stories they choose to cover and that is mostly the problem with all news organizations. It's not that "Faux News Lies", which every 20-year old has been programed to say by high ranking leftists, it's that all news organizations cherry pick the facts. Your premiss about folks like me not changing the channel, a channel that didn't exist before 1997. ...I grew up watching Phil Donahue and obviously all of the very liberal entertainers, who you apparently believe are just simply giving us entertainment? Before Fox, during the 1980's, I would watch CNN for hours at a time, I'm just a news hound I guess. I still watch CNN, but I also watch Democracy Now, including Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman and the David Pakman show - talk about biased!!!!! Rachel Maddow will give her true facts and figures, but again, leaving out the critical info that could cause a viewer to form another opinion. The irony is, many FNC viewers know the opposite point of view, it's hard to avoid because of it's prevalence throughout our culture. However, many left-leaning minds live their lives in this ever expanding echo chamber, from university to popular culture, they are fully exposed to the liberal way, and what do they know about FNC? They know "Faux lies". They don't seem to have spent much time watching FNC, but they know the "everybody"(in their echo chamber) knows FNC is "fake news"! John Doe, As far as you believing other media sources outside of FNC are "simply giving you the news", I don't think you recognize your own group think or the liberal culture we are living in. To illustrate my point all I can do is name these popular liberal sources of news and TV entertainment media and you can try to name the conservative equivalent, without using Limbaugh and FNC over and over. Then maybe you will recognize the left's curious preoccupation with 1 news channel. What is the conservative equivalent to" MSNBC and all of their shows? PBS and all of their shows? Democracy Now and all of their shows? MTV News? Every major US Newspaper who supported Clinton (almost all)? Shows who consistently feed their viewers news on serious topics, like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Seth Meyers, Oprah, Chelsea Handler, The View etc. These aren't people simply giving us the news or entertainment, many of them are extremely hostile to the conservative point of view, there is no denying that the popular culture in the US has moved way to the left in recent years. In light of the liberals'/ leftists' nearly total control of our culture, their obsession toward 1 news channel is interesting and frankly, a little scary.
Yes, it's always everyone else but you. I get it. You're still butt-hurt over the election, over losing a record number of local, state and federal seats. You're still stunned over the fact that your viewpoints were completely and utterly rejected across the broadest spectrum of political landscape ever before seen. You can't imagine that all of those who were quietly watching along as your party of choice systematically disassembled just about everything conservatives hold dear finally had enough and decided to voice their displeasure.
Keep doubling down on the behavior and viewpoints that got you here. I'm sure that will help. The bad news, unfortunately, is that you've just begun to see what momentum can do. The silent majority has had enough of the bitchy, whiny, race baiting minority that you SJWs represent.
The fact that it was such an ambush to you people - that you never even saw it coming because you are so disconnected from reality - made it all the sweeter.
The last 20 seconds of this video are absurdly funny...but the whole clip is great. TRIGGER WARNING, FREDDIE.
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Mr. Foresight, for you and all other liberals on this site, this was taken from the comments section from the link provided. It is a pretty clear and straight forward diagnosis imo.
Mike Real-Truth john doe • 5 days ago
John Doe, I'm following your logic, but I'm afraid that maybe you don't recognize your own biases, which skew your view of the facts. For example, 1) You share a popular and false perception of FNC viewers, which is constantly promulgated by left-leaning activists. 2) You believe other media is simply giving you the unbiased news. It feels unbiased to you because much of it is inline with your world view. Let me start with 1) perception of the FNC viewers, Rush Limbaugh listeners etc. You said, "Fox... to get it's viewers to not change the channel." You paint this picture of viewers who are only aware of the conservative point of view since they were born and bred on FNC and if only the FNC viewer would consider alternative points of view, they wouldn't have such a narrow understanding of the issues. Fox didn't make all of their viewers conservative, conservatives formed their world view by their own life experiences and opinions formed from many sources of information. FNC started in 1997, were conservatives invented in 1997? Seventeen years after Reagan first won the presidency? Most of us already know the center-left point of view, we can't avoid it, it's everywhere, from grade school through university, in entertainment etc. We will listen to a rare conservative source like FNC because it is often the only source offering a different perspective and another whole set of proven facts (usually, not always). In my experience there are low, medium and high information people who lean left or right, they exist on both sides. In fact, I would say many moderately informed people on the left often can't accurately articulate the conservative position. They can recite much of what they have heard from The Daily Show, Bill Maher or their university professor, but rarely understand the conservative point of view. Now let's talk about me...Yup, I will watch Fox News and I'm fully aware of the conservative spin, particularly in the commentary shows. The actual news hour is more straight forward, but there is also built-in bias that exhibits itself during the news hour, not because of lies, but because of the stories they choose to cover and that is mostly the problem with all news organizations. It's not that "Faux News Lies", which every 20-year old has been programed to say by high ranking leftists, it's that all news organizations cherry pick the facts. Your premiss about folks like me not changing the channel, a channel that didn't exist before 1997. ...I grew up watching Phil Donahue and obviously all of the very liberal entertainers, who you apparently believe are just simply giving us entertainment? Before Fox, during the 1980's, I would watch CNN for hours at a time, I'm just a news hound I guess. I still watch CNN, but I also watch Democracy Now, including Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman and the David Pakman show - talk about biased!!!!! Rachel Maddow will give her true facts and figures, but again, leaving out the critical info that could cause a viewer to form another opinion. The irony is, many FNC viewers know the opposite point of view, it's hard to avoid because of it's prevalence throughout our culture. However, many left-leaning minds live their lives in this ever expanding echo chamber, from university to popular culture, they are fully exposed to the liberal way, and what do they know about FNC? They know "Faux lies". They don't seem to have spent much time watching FNC, but they know the "everybody"(in their echo chamber) knows FNC is "fake news"! John Doe, As far as you believing other media sources outside of FNC are "simply giving you the news", I don't think you recognize your own group think or the liberal culture we are living in. To illustrate my point all I can do is name these popular liberal sources of news and TV entertainment media and you can try to name the conservative equivalent, without using Limbaugh and FNC over and over. Then maybe you will recognize the left's curious preoccupation with 1 news channel. What is the conservative equivalent to" MSNBC and all of their shows? PBS and all of their shows? Democracy Now and all of their shows? MTV News? Every major US Newspaper who supported Clinton (almost all)? Shows who consistently feed their viewers news on serious topics, like Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Seth Meyers, Oprah, Chelsea Handler, The View etc. These aren't people simply giving us the news or entertainment, many of them are extremely hostile to the conservative point of view, there is no denying that the popular culture in the US has moved way to the left in recent years. In light of the liberals'/ leftists' nearly total control of our culture, their obsession toward 1 news channel is interesting and frankly, a little scary.
This is because Conservatives believe in principles first then in the people in their party. Liberals believe in other liberals first and then their principles. When a liberal breaks with a principle other liberals believe in, there is a rush to defend why they did it - because other, more liberal principles must have superseded. A liberal can never do wrong. In the most egregious of examples, other liberals will go dark and silent. But will never attack.
Conservatives, on the other hand, when witnessing their principles violated, go on the offensive and attack the person violating the principle. If it is another Conservative guilty of betraying conservatism, the criticisms from other conservatives are especially aggressive, as we cannot tolerate one of our own betraying our principles. We find that dishonest, immoral and disgusting.
There's a big difference in how liberals and conservatives view what is important.
Find me one liberal out of any of the posters on this site in the entire time the site was in existence, where that poster criticized a political decision or issue that the left made. You might find an anomaly. It's possible.
You can find tons of examples where someone on the right from this site criticized a republican.
Sure, bro, that's it.
My butt's just fine, but thanks for your concern. While not a participant, I have something of a front row seat to what will likely culminate in a smash-up derby, an impeachment or something along those lines. When you put a bull in a china shop, you shouldn't be too surprised by the outcome.
"Utterly rejected?" Try to contain your hyperbole. If it were not for the Republican gerrymandering and the disproportionate weight resulting from electoral colleges, the outcome would have entirely different. Now, while the electoral college thing has been a mainstay despite its best-before date having long expired, you can argue that's it's the "American way." (The wrong way, but nevertheless the American way.) However, the ongoing Republican partisan gerrymandering borders on organized crime.
So try not to gush quite so effusively about the outcome.
Trump's slogan should have been: "Be careful what you wish for."
You forgot to blame the Russians in your dissembling. There's still time to edit it.
Why? That's already a given.
Don't kid yourself. If the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be apoplectic.
If there was proof, I might be. But considering Trump was a vote I made against Hillary, and that I fully expected Hillary to win, it is unlikely you are accurate.
Reread my post. If the shoe were on the other foot means that Trump's campaign and the RNC would have been hacked and made public. If Trump had previously been comfortably ahead and then the margin rapidly narrowed following the disclosure, you would have been more than mildly upset. But you're managing to take the outcome as it occurred in stride and rather heroically. (There's a word for that.)
And that's just on the matter of the hack & disclosure.