Media and Celebrities Outrage Over Whites Killing a Black Kid
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What? Where are you getting your evidence to support the statement that guns used in street crime are discarded to hide evidence? If someone has an illegal firearm, it isn't discarded because there is no record of the firearm being tied to them!
Do you have some source that supports this assertion? Are you some sort of violent crimes expert at the FBI or ATF?
BRILLIANT ANALYSIS!
What a fucking stupid comment...
Deflecting from the fact that:
1) Gun Crimes are mostly committed by Democrats
2) Most felons are Democrats
Wait so the gangsta thug that just killed a little girl is a registered voter.... and a democrat..wow you must have special access to all the voting records and cross matched them with people convicted of gun violence...
I see you’re back on asking questions you can easily answer yourself. I’d like to note Tao is unable to refute anything I’ve said he is stuck in an everlasting state of confusion. Probably too much drugs as youth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...c7e0ea97057_story.html?utm_term=.ece659b86da3
Ah, personal attacks. The usual, when a liberal is faced with facts and cannot refute your argument.
From your 2013 article:
Still, a Washington Post analysis shows that the guns keep rolling in. District police recovered about 2,000 guns last year, and Prince George’s collected about 1,200. That compares with 700 guns recovered in Montgomery County and about 600 guns taken in Fairfax County. Arlington County police confiscated 60.
The “drip, drip, drip of guns” is critical to consider in broader discussions about how to deter gun-related crime, said Daniel Webster, who directs the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore.
The recoveries reflect a gun-saturated society in which an estimated 300 million firearms are in public hands, by far the highest level of gun ownership in the world. In the national gun-control debate, a salient fact often has been overlooked: Legislative efforts aimed at curtailing the availability of the most lethal weapons merely play at the margins of this huge gun population.
The “drip, drip, drip of guns” is critical to consider in broader discussions about how to deter gun-related crime, said Daniel Webster, who directs the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore.
The recoveries reflect a gun-saturated society in which an estimated 300 million firearms are in public hands, by far the highest level of gun ownership in the world. In the national gun-control debate, a salient fact often has been overlooked: Legislative efforts aimed at curtailing the availability of the most lethal weapons merely play at the margins of this huge gun population.
It should only take the police 100,000 or so years to get all the guns off the street at this rate. This, of course, assumes the guns seized by the police don't make it back out into the system instead of being destroyed. It also doesn't address the fact that you can 3D print a pistol now. Or new guns coming in.
So I ask again, how will putting registration and licensing in place - oh, and you said insurance as well (we haven't gotten to how that would work yet) - that only some law abiding citizens would follow (and many of them wouldn't follow it either) reduce crime in the next, oh let's say 20 years?
All you will do is force some folks who don't commit crimes to register.
Massive noncompliance with SAFE Act
by Jesse J. Smith/July 7, 2016/30 comments
In January 2013, as the nation still mourned the Sandy Hook massacre, New York State enacted one of the nation’s strictest gun control laws. But three and a half years later, state records obtained after a lengthy court battle show that a key provision of the New York Safe Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act — mandatory registration of assault weapons — has been roundly ignored by gun owners in Ulster County and across the state.
The NY SAFE Act defines assault weapons as any rifle, pistol or shotgun that uses a detachable magazine and has one of a laundry list of “military features,” including flash suppressors, folding stocks, bayonet lugs and heat shields. The law banned new sales of assault weapons in the state and required current owners to register the firearms with state police.
In 2014, attorney and policy analyst Paloma Capanna filed suit on behalf of Rochester-based radio host Bill Robinson seeking data on NY SAFE Act compliance: specifically, how many assault weapons had actually been registered in the state.
Cuomo administration officials first ignored, then denied Robinson’s Freedom of Information Act request. But, on June 22, following two years of litigation, state police released the information based on a court decision which found that while the law forbade the disclosure of the actual registration forms, nothing precluded the release of aggregate data.
That data shows massive noncompliance with the assault weapon registration requirement. Based on an estimate from the National Shooting Sports Federation, about 1 million firearms in New York State meet the law’s assault-weapon criteria, but just 44,000 have been registered. That’s a compliance rate of about 4 percent. Capanna said that the high rate of noncompliance with the law could only be interpreted as a large-scale civil disobedience, given the high level of interest and concern about the law on the part of gun owners.
“It’s not that they aren’t aware of the law,” said Capanna. “The lack of registration is a massive act of civil disobedience by gun owners statewide.”
Opposition to the SAFE Act has been widespread across upstate New York, where 52 of the state’s 62 counties, including Ulster, have passed resolutions opposing the law. Upstate police agencies have also demonstrated a marked lack of enthusiasm for enforcing the ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. According to statistics compiled by the state Department of Criminal Justice Services, there have been just 11 arrests for failure to register an otherwise-legal assault weapon since the SAFE Act took effect in March 2013 and 62 for possession of a large capacity magazine. In Ulster County, where 463 assault weapons have been registered, there have been just three arrests for possession of large-capacity magazines and none for failure to register an assault weapon. Ulster County Sheriff Paul VanBlarcum has been a vocal critic of the law; he said he believed large numbers of Ulster County gun owners had chosen to ignore the registration requirement.
“We’re a rural county with a lot of gun enthusiasts,” said VanBlarcum. “So [463] sounds like a very low number.”
Ah, personal attacks. The usual, when a liberal is faced with facts and cannot refute your argument.
From your 2013 article:
Still, a Washington Post analysis shows that the guns keep rolling in. District police recovered about 2,000 guns last year, and Prince George’s collected about 1,200. That compares with 700 guns recovered in Montgomery County and about 600 guns taken in Fairfax County. Arlington County police confiscated 60.
The “drip, drip, drip of guns” is critical to consider in broader discussions about how to deter gun-related crime, said Daniel Webster, who directs the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore.
The recoveries reflect a gun-saturated society in which an estimated 300 million firearms are in public hands, by far the highest level of gun ownership in the world. In the national gun-control debate, a salient fact often has been overlooked: Legislative efforts aimed at curtailing the availability of the most lethal weapons merely play at the margins of this huge gun population.
It should only take the police 100,000 or so years to get all the guns off the street at this rate. This, of course, assumes the guns seized by the police don't make it back out into the system instead of being destroyed. It also doesn't address the fact that you can 3D print a pistol now. Or new guns coming in.
So I ask again, how will putting registration and licensing in place - oh, and you said insurance as well (we haven't gotten to how that would work yet) - that only some law abiding citizens would follow (and many of them wouldn't follow it either) reduce crime in the next, oh let's say 20 years?
All you will do is force some folks who don't commit crimes to register.
Massive noncompliance with SAFE Act
by Jesse J. Smith/July 7, 2016/30 comments
In January 2013, as the nation still mourned the Sandy Hook massacre, New York State enacted one of the nation’s strictest gun control laws. But three and a half years later, state records obtained after a lengthy court battle show that a key provision of the New York Safe Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act — mandatory registration of assault weapons — has been roundly ignored by gun owners in Ulster County and across the state.
The NY SAFE Act defines assault weapons as any rifle, pistol or shotgun that uses a detachable magazine and has one of a laundry list of “military features,” including flash suppressors, folding stocks, bayonet lugs and heat shields. The law banned new sales of assault weapons in the state and required current owners to register the firearms with state police.
In 2014, attorney and policy analyst Paloma Capanna filed suit on behalf of Rochester-based radio host Bill Robinson seeking data on NY SAFE Act compliance: specifically, how many assault weapons had actually been registered in the state.
Cuomo administration officials first ignored, then denied Robinson’s Freedom of Information Act request. But, on June 22, following two years of litigation, state police released the information based on a court decision which found that while the law forbade the disclosure of the actual registration forms, nothing precluded the release of aggregate data.
That data shows massive noncompliance with the assault weapon registration requirement. Based on an estimate from the National Shooting Sports Federation, about 1 million firearms in New York State meet the law’s assault-weapon criteria, but just 44,000 have been registered. That’s a compliance rate of about 4 percent. Capanna said that the high rate of noncompliance with the law could only be interpreted as a large-scale civil disobedience, given the high level of interest and concern about the law on the part of gun owners.
“It’s not that they aren’t aware of the law,” said Capanna. “The lack of registration is a massive act of civil disobedience by gun owners statewide.”
Opposition to the SAFE Act has been widespread across upstate New York, where 52 of the state’s 62 counties, including Ulster, have passed resolutions opposing the law. Upstate police agencies have also demonstrated a marked lack of enthusiasm for enforcing the ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines. According to statistics compiled by the state Department of Criminal Justice Services, there have been just 11 arrests for failure to register an otherwise-legal assault weapon since the SAFE Act took effect in March 2013 and 62 for possession of a large capacity magazine. In Ulster County, where 463 assault weapons have been registered, there have been just three arrests for possession of large-capacity magazines and none for failure to register an assault weapon. Ulster County Sheriff Paul VanBlarcum has been a vocal critic of the law; he said he believed large numbers of Ulster County gun owners had chosen to ignore the registration requirement.
“We’re a rural county with a lot of gun enthusiasts,” said VanBlarcum. “So [463] sounds like a very low number.”
I see you’ve come out of your drug induced fog and have begun to actually make assertions and rebuttals.
So your argument is because we’ve let the problem get so bad it will take a very long time to clean it up so we should just continue to live in a country with mass shootings of children and gun violence being the second leading cause of death of children, on top of the 40,000 deaths yearly and the other thousands of victims that survive but are named, scarred, disabled, paralyzed and traumatized.
Yeah, I mean, fuck it right? Duck those little kids and all the other victims because guns are too big of a problem.
No. Not at all. We can make progress with tried and true regulations we know have worked in other places.
Saying responsibility measures like licenses and registration is some sort of a burden is nonsense. There is supposed to be burdens with gun ownership, hence “well regulated.”
"mass shootings of children and gun violence being the second leading cause of death of children"
I call Bullshiat
(from the CDC)
What is the definition of an Unintentional Injury and does that include accidental gun deaths?
"The leading cause of death for this age group is unintentional injuries (other than firearm injuries), primarily due to motor vehicle crashes or drowning; the second leading cause of death for this age group is cancer, according to the CDC."