It's a jungle out there...
Materialists
- Thread starter ShoeshineBoy
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It's a jungle out there...
neither Jerusalem nor Judea were backwaters and there are many people from that era whose lives are documented much more fully. another case of neither proves nor disproves.
hey, without referring to the original, can you reconstruct what was written in this slightly modified post?
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Quote from damir00:
neither Jerusalem nor Judea were "backwater" nations and there are many people from that era whose lives are documented much more fully. another case of neither proves nor disproves.
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Sorry, I just meant that they were not on the "outskirts" of Roman power...
This is clearly a list of tickers. The original appears to be corrupted however. Look it starts out almost with Microsoft and then goes to Penn Engineering and Manufacturing. Where did you find this? All I need now are buy and sell signals!
Quote from damir00:
neither Jerusalem nor Judea were backwaters and there are many people from that era whose lives are documented much more fully. another case of neither proves nor disproves.
hey, without referring to the original, can you reconstruct what was written in this slightly modified post?
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Okay, assuming that you didn't find the Rosetta Stone of trading, you're referring to the difficulty in translation given the lack of vowels, correct?
difficulty of translation? no. difficulty in simply reading. even knowing the language the text above is written in, you can't read it.
even though...
here's the kicker...
you wrote it.
it's from the first post on this board.
even knowing the language, even having composed the original words, you can't read it.
even though...
here's the kicker...
you wrote it.
it's from the first post on this board.
even knowing the language, even having composed the original words, you can't read it.
Lets assume what you are saying is true.... that he was
a smalltown teacher in a backwater nation.
You have only provided an excuse as to WHY records dont exist.
But that still leaves us in the SAME position.
Its not RATIONAL to believe in him.
This does NOT mean that he DOESNT exist, it simply means
you shouldnt believe that he DID.
Now point #2: You are rejecting the Gospels, because as I
stated earlier, they painted an entirely different story.
Jesus was a man who was WIDELY known for many reasons,
yet isnt mentioned by contemporary historians anywhere.
So which is it Shoe? YOUR version, which may explain why
we dont know much of him, or the Gospel version, which
implies he should be mentioned all over the place throughout
history because of his incredible works and large following???
It doesnt add up.
peace
axeman
a smalltown teacher in a backwater nation.
You have only provided an excuse as to WHY records dont exist.
But that still leaves us in the SAME position.
Its not RATIONAL to believe in him.
This does NOT mean that he DOESNT exist, it simply means
you shouldnt believe that he DID.
Now point #2: You are rejecting the Gospels, because as I
stated earlier, they painted an entirely different story.
Jesus was a man who was WIDELY known for many reasons,
yet isnt mentioned by contemporary historians anywhere.
So which is it Shoe? YOUR version, which may explain why
we dont know much of him, or the Gospel version, which
implies he should be mentioned all over the place throughout
history because of his incredible works and large following???
It doesnt add up.
peace
axeman
In fact.... many of the contemporary historians of the time even logged
tiny trivial actions of very little known healers, and thieves, etc.
Thousands of entries on every little thing that happened in town.
Yet...no mention of Jesus....hmmmmmm.....
Damir:"another case of neither proves nor disproves."
And in the absence of proof, the rational position is disbelief
and agnosticism.
Agnosticism, since we have no KNOWLEDGE of such a person.
And DISBELIEF, because a rational person should not BELIEVE
without KNOWLEDGE.
peace
axeman
tiny trivial actions of very little known healers, and thieves, etc.
Thousands of entries on every little thing that happened in town.
Yet...no mention of Jesus....hmmmmmm.....
Damir:"another case of neither proves nor disproves.
"And in the absence of proof, the rational position is disbelief
and agnosticism.
Agnosticism, since we have no KNOWLEDGE of such a person.
And DISBELIEF, because a rational person should not BELIEVE
without KNOWLEDGE.
peace
axeman
Quote from damir00:
neither Jerusalem nor Judea were backwaters and there are many people from that era whose lives are documented much more fully. another case of neither proves nor disproves.
hey, without referring to the original, can you reconstruct what was written in this slightly modified post?
--
mftpnntttrsngrpttcnhldcndlcndlstcfyprfrttm
trlstsntrmsfdfmngnsltngnddmnngpplftrblfs
tmsdlmbstbtdnstjsc''dststrtcgnrlclngctrstpd
cnsmnplsxplntmwmtrlstsrlmsttpstfltrgrpsmt
trngntbprjdchrbtmrlstrglng
trhsgttbdprrsncrtnprsnlttpprhpsttstrctdtm
trlsmrrthmnstldrshlbltlngnddsrspctflndvdls
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I am agnostic and a-jesus, or simply dont believe in jesus (Similar to being an atheist)
You need to learn to differentiate the two, they are not mutually
exclusive.
(a)Gnosticism deals with KNOWLEDGE.
ATHEISM/BELIEF/DISBELIEF/A-jesus, obviously, deals with BELIEF.
I have no KNOWLEDGE of a historical Jesus, and therefore am agnostic on it.
However, I also hold no BELIEF in a historical jesus, so therefore
I am a-jesus. There is a big difference between knowledge and belief.
I assert that you are agnostic on a historical jesus, because you have never
provided any valid evidence of a historical jesus.
But you still BELIEVE in a historical jesus (I think), which I
think is irrational without evidence to support the belief.
peace
axeman
peace
axeman
You need to learn to differentiate the two, they are not mutually
exclusive.
(a)Gnosticism deals with KNOWLEDGE.
ATHEISM/BELIEF/DISBELIEF/A-jesus, obviously, deals with BELIEF.
I have no KNOWLEDGE of a historical Jesus, and therefore am agnostic on it.
However, I also hold no BELIEF in a historical jesus, so therefore
I am a-jesus.
There is a big difference between knowledge and belief.I assert that you are agnostic on a historical jesus, because you have never
provided any valid evidence of a historical jesus.
But you still BELIEVE in a historical jesus (I think), which I
think is irrational without evidence to support the belief.
peace
axeman
peace
axeman
Quote from damir00:
difficulty of translation? no. difficulty in simply reading. even knowing the language the text above is written in, you can't read it.
even though...
here's the kicker...
you wrote it.
it's from the first post on this board.
even knowing the language, even having composed the original words, you can't read it.
Sheesh! No wonder I can't every get my point across. Everything seems a jumble lately...
I know that ancient Hebrew was written w/o vowels. But was it also written w/o spaces?