making one point a day?

TRIN, or Arms index, detects overbought and oversold levels in the market.
It is the advance/decline ratio divided by the advance/decline volume ratio.

:D
 
Quote from vulture:

c'mon man. 7 years trading the sp/es and never heard of TRIN?

That was rather funny.

protrader, are you migrating from the world of discretionary trading to systematic?
 
getting the one point a day automated is very possible-------getting one point a day "hand trading" is a whole different story. hand trading includes your emotions fighting any system you have-------guess who usually wins---not your great system.

if you can create discipline levels to follow a sound mechanical trade method {like a nyse TICK signal based scalp es system}, and you can react fast consistently you can do very well---------but it all comes down to your mental capabilities. the only thing keeping you from one point a day is yourself.
 
Quote from protrader-2K5:

Is it possible to make one point a day on one trade?

I think I may have been able to put something together... its far from done.

But the question is, am I wasting my time?

I am looking at a system that can make one ES point. One trade per day.

What kind of things should I be careful of?

Normally my longerterm stuff I don't worry about BID/Ask. Is this a major concern with the ES?

thanks

With 1 point a day starting at 1 car i can become a multi-millionaire in about 2 years.

Not that its impossible to do 1 pt a day. Just stating the rewards. :D

Quote from Charlie Dow:

Well said Spike.
If you put together a consistent system and it produces 2+ points a day, especially during the Summer when volatility is always low, then extracting 1 point of of the Market, especially the E-Mini S&P anytime, especially the rest of the year will be a breeze. The key is to build your confidence through consistency. With trading consistency comes consistent profits.

Summer....is that sept time for u americans? i hate summer index futures. 1 pt range on ES gives me nightmares. I remember being in Woodies' CCI chatroom and the mod took 10 losers in a row taking CCI signals during one such day. :eek:
 
Quote from Charlie Dow:

Roll up your sleeves and check the daily contract volume for yourself. I have 8 years worth of data archived but I don't share, sorry.

Summers may be less volatile, but.....

The last 8 years' volume numbers are irrelevant considering the contract volume in the most all electronic markets, and the ES particularly, has been on a constant incline. Also, your precious data is not exactly secret; it's common knowledge.

I would be hesitant to say the summer months are that quiet. People say summer is slow, as well as December for Christmas and November for Thanksgiving. Also, any week preceeding a holiday is slow. So, by these "conventional wisdoms", we have "normal" markets for about 4 months per year.

I have not done it myself, but I'd bet that if you detrended the daily ES volume for the last 4 years and tested the data, the summer months would not be statistically lower volume than any other season.

Besides, volume is not the only variable that contributes to volatility...so I suppose the volume debate is moot.
 
yes 2 years is correct------- this is possible but extremely few do this because of the battle with themselves--------this is why there are not es millionaire traders all around.


i do think in the next few years there will be a dramatic increase in futures trader millionaires due to automated trading--------just my opinion----------the technology to trade automated is sophisticated enough to pull this off with good strategies.
 
Quote from Remiraz:

With 1 point a day starting at 1 car i can become a multi-millionaire in about 2 years.

Not that its impossible to do 1 pt a day. Just stating the rewards. :D



Summer....is that sept time for u americans? i hate summer index futures. 1 pt range on ES gives me nightmares. I remember being in Woodies' CCI chatroom and the mod took 10 losers in a row taking CCI signals during one such day. :eek:

Wow, I don't ever remember a 1 point day on the E-mini S&P. When was that?
 
Quote from hanseng1:

Summers may be less volatile, but.....

The last 8 years' volume numbers are irrelevant considering the contract volume in the most all electronic markets, and the ES particularly, has been on a constant incline. Also, your precious data is not exactly secret; it's common knowledge.

I would be hesitant to say the summer months are that quiet. People say summer is slow, as well as December for Christmas and November for Thanksgiving. Also, any week preceeding a holiday is slow. So, by these "conventional wisdoms", we have "normal" markets for about 4 months per year.

I have not done it myself, but I'd bet that if you detrended the daily ES volume for the last 4 years and tested the data, the summer months would not be statistically lower volume than any other season.

Besides, volume is not the only variable that contributes to volatility...so I suppose the volume debate is moot.

I know it's not a secret but saying I won't share forces others to go find it. :D
I have tested the data and, proportionately, volume does pull back every July and August.
 
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