Make no mistake...daytrading is where its at...

Quote from IShopAtPublix:

RIMM 1 minute chart take a look at how many gaps are on that 1 minute chart. [/B]

This is just about the dumbest thing I've heard yet. Gaps on a one minute intraday chart, eh? I'll have to keep a sharp eye out for them...
 
Major moves take time. FACT. Money is made in decent moves....whipsaws happen day trading (more). If you are good at day trading, power to you but did you ever consider, maybe you are just lucky ???(streaks last years and sometimes decades, but ultimately when you realize that luck != skill you have a rude awakening.....
It is actually not so difficult to see moves building up but the moves do not always develop the way we think they should.
For me there is a rule in trading. Risk only as much as you can make 3/4 times when right. So I can fail 2 times and still break even.... Preferably more than the figures above. Day trading while WAS doable when we had 1/8 as scalping is getting harder and harder. Also there is a need to commit more money as positions are bigger/hence risk is. (I am not talking prop shops).

P.S. DTers, how many times have you made some money, but would have made 10 times if you had a little patience?
 
Quote from hoodooman:

I closed my daytrading account and concentrated on looking for a really strong edge. I finally found it but now its not the trading that bothers me. Its the brokers...

I think I've developed a serious neurosis. I just can't bear the idea of some insurance company cheating me out of my money. Its happened to me before.
I'm not as neurotic as you but I make it a regular habit of pulling money out of my brokerage account and putting it in those stable banks being bailed out by the gubbermint :)
 
Quote from Bolimomo:

This kind of post is annoying. Read my post again. Who said anything about discrediting positional trading? Who said anything about positional trading is weak? It is about a choice of an approach. It is about risk management. We, day traders, just choose to AVOID a gap risk. I said if someone - If I hold a short 1000 shares RIMM overnight, I will have $15000 in losses. And I said day trading, swing trading, buy-and-hold can all make good money. Now how did I discredit position trading, PLEASE?
You really need to understand that some people say NO becasue they don't know any better and others say it because that's all they say. Trying to convince a naysayer that what is working for you is what's best for you (not others) is a waste of time.
 
Quote from andrasnm:

Major moves take time. FACT. Money is made in decent moves....whipsaws happen day trading (more). If you are good at day trading, power to you but did you ever consider, maybe you are just lucky ???(streaks last years and sometimes decades, but ultimately when you realize that luck != skill you have a rude awakening.....
Like I would have a problem with being on a lucky winning streak for years or even decades? ROFL
 
Quote from Port1385:

While you will read about amazing trades on ET and other blogs of great position trading, its what you dont read that you should carefully consider. Many authors of message threads and blogs will never reveal their losing trades. Sometimes you may see me make some awful calls and I look as if I am the worst trader out there. The reality is that I publish what I feel no matter the case. Other bloggers will simply only reveal winning trades.

Any trade posted from hindsight should be considered a fantasy.
 
The money is in the swings intraday. Go where the points are plentiful and collect or try to collect as much points as you can with a decent system. Use liquid & volatile futures markets (ES,CL,etc). If you are not already well under way, get going and make your money.

So then why anything else? Apart from wanting to stay a loser, why would any others at all, wanting to make it, go spend their time to jack around jerking themselves off on doing other things? Jeez.
 
Quote from andrasnm:

Major moves take time. FACT. Money is made in decent moves....whipsaws happen day trading (more). If you are good at day trading, power to you but did you ever consider, maybe you are just lucky ???(streaks last years and sometimes decades, but ultimately when you realize that luck != skill you have a rude awakening.....

Tell Tiger Wood that he's been just lucky putting golf balls in the hole.

Tell Barry Bond that he's been just lucky hitting the baseball with a bat (okay, besides steroid use).

Tell Roger Federer that he's been just lucky hitting the tennis ball with a racket.

Tell Magic Johnson that he's been just lucky shooting the basketball through the hoop.

The list goes on and on. There are just so many lucky people in this world. But ultimately when they realize that luck != skill they have a rude awakening...
 
Another good non P&R post. You hit most of the points although I'll argue your "golden timeframe" needs to be expanded. I recently sat with a gold trade for 3 months because that's how long it took to fully milk the rally but just the same nice work ISAP.

A subset of "a thousand mini trends in one day. A predictive reaction would be to try to exploit them all or most of them." is the thinking that since there's so much movement each day why can't I not be greedy and take just a little. Like a point. Every day of my life. It's amazing how pervasive the eat like a bird mentality is among traders.


Quote from IShopAtPublix:

Day trading comes from 2 simple mentalities:

Irrational fear of overnight
Desire for "fast money"


Since anybody who has ever followed any market intraday knows that a particular financial instrument will have
The problem with day trading is that 6 months charts still "spill over" into intra day. If a financial instrument is "doomed" a person sitting looking at a 1/3/5 min chart will not have a warning. In essence you still have to understand what is going on "up there".


There are 2 issues with time scale in the financial markets: the longer the time frame the harder it is to predict what is going to happen and the higher chance of things changing in a major way. On the other hand, going intraday increases the risk from randomness and "spill over". So my opinion of the "golden timeframe" is >1 day to two weeks.
 
Major moves take time. FACT. Money is made in decent moves....whipsaws happen day trading (more). If you are good at day trading, power to you but did you ever consider, maybe you are just lucky ???(streaks last years and sometimes decades, but ultimately when you realize that luck != skill you have a rude awakening.....

Shit I didn't know math somehow changes with timeframe.
At day trading streaks happen. Higher time frame less often!
:confused: :confused:

After years and years knowing about trading you are absolutely clueless about biggest advantage of shorter time frame.
 
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