MAGAtards kill black man over air freshener

Not everybody obviously. A significant amount though. To say it's not is just trying to be PC. 1/3 black men go to prison at some point in their lifetimes. It might have gone down since that statistic was released in 2003, but that's still an alarming statistic. That to me is enough evidence that there's a pretty shitty culture.
 
I agree with you in large part. But history has proven that even when we throw hundreds of millions at those communities their economic situation won't change. You can't change someone's willingness to work hard and to educate oneself by throwing money at such individual. Never worked. I can make you countless examples of experiments in global history that have proven this approach won't work.

What I disagree with is that indigenous populations by large part (at least in Canada) don't live on reservations today. And any black person can choose to move out of the inner city if they wish to do so. I suspect drug peddling earns a living more easily than working in the factory or at an office.

If the economic situation doesn't change, then the crime situation won't change. The lack of opportunity leaves a vacuum open for illicit markets. Illicit markets lead towards violence. African Americans didn't always have a culture that was this shitty. It's only after the urbanization that brought gang-related activity. We see African immigrants not ingrained in African American culture arrive, work hard, and seek high educational attainment. Lack of opportunity on the reservations have caused similar problems for Native Americans. There actually is a biological component to Native Americans and that's their genetic susceptibility towards alcoholism as they never built up the same amount of immunity from it as the "Old World" has.
 
I fully agree with you. But history has proven that even when we throw hundreds of millions at those communities their economic situation won't change. You can't change someone's willingness to work hard and to educate oneself by throwing money at such individual. Never worked. I can make you countless examples of experiments in global history that have proven this approach won't work.
I'm not for reparations. I know if we throw money people who are uneducated they'll have a good time, piss it away, and be back in the same position within 10 years. However, we need to be fair and recognize that black people aren't given the same opportunities. The schools are worse, because they're funded by property taxes. That means rich towns can afford a nicer school system. It won't make up the difference if education isn't embraced by the students/parents obviously. These are multi-variable situations.
 
Everyone can read text books. I volunteered for years to teach multiple subjects at a US inner city underfunded school as part of the college's honor program. I taught my students how to pick up a text book and read. I also taught them how to peruse a host of free resources to ask others for help when getting stuck. The problem with your argument is that it very quickly leads down a slippery slope where we try to make everyone equally well off instead of aiming to provide equal opportunities. I am fighting for equal opportunities in life not to rectify that some people have more money than others to walk through life. I see zero problem with learning even in challenging environments. It comes down to who will pick themselves up and who will just sit in the sand and stick the head into the same.

I'm not for reparations. I know if we throw money people who are uneducated they'll have a good time, piss it away, and be back in the same position within 10 years. However, we need to be fair and recognize that black people aren't given the same opportunities. The schools are worse, because they're funded by property taxes. That means rich towns can afford a nicer school system. It won't make up the difference if education isn't embraced by the students/parents obviously. These are multi-variable situations.
 
Not everybody obviously. A significant amount though. To say it's not is just trying to be PC. 1/3 black men go to prison at some point in their lifetimes. It might have gone down since that statistic was released in 2003, but that's still an alarming statistic. That to me is enough evidence that there's a pretty shitty culture.

What your statement is evidence of is shitty education.

So as of last count there are about 44 million Blacks in this country by 2020.

Total population of Blacks in prison is in absolute numbers, about 465,200 black inmates in state or federal prison at the end of 2018.

Even if you want to break it out by male or whatever, your comment that their culture is shitty and 1/3 go to jail is because to you blacks are nothing but criminals and poor.

Yeah... looks like 1/3 to me huh...
 
What your statement is evidence of is shitty education.

So as of last count there are about 44 million Blacks in this country by 2020.

Total population of Blacks in prison is in absolute numbers, about 465,200 black inmates in state or federal prison at the end of 2018.

Even if you want to break it out by male or whatever, your comment that their culture is shitty and 1/3 go to jail is because to you blacks are nothing but criminals and poor.

Yeah... looks like 1/3 to me huh...

Your numbers look low. I'm seeing 2.3 million in prison and ranges from 34-40% black. As for the 1/3 stat, from the left-wing Huffington Post:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144

It's not just education. It's a culture. A culture is fostered by many factors. Education can clearly help break the culture, but only if it's embraced by those living in it.
 
You should learn to do some basic math. He (and the statistics in fact) state that 1/3 see a jail from the inside THROUGHOUT A LIFETIME. 465k * 60 years = 28 million. Divide by 2 to account for repeat offenders and long term inmates vs shorter sentences = 14 million, roughly 1/3. In fact I am overly generous with my 2 fudge factor because the median prison time served is around 1.3 years.

I guess any student of truths and facts can agree that choices in life are not just influenced by racism but primarily by individual, group, and culture life choices. Pretending as if all this inequality is caused by racism is ludicrous and only is a reflection of misguided political convictions.

What your statement is evidence of is shitty education.

So as of last count there are about 44 million Blacks in this country by 2020.

Total population of Blacks in prison is in absolute numbers, about 465,200 black inmates in state or federal prison at the end of 2018.

Even if you want to break it out by male or whatever, your comment that their culture is shitty and 1/3 go to jail is because to you blacks are nothing but criminals and poor.

Yeah... looks like 1/3 to me huh...
 
. The guy who wields guns in his crimes is far more dangerous. .

And this is where we disagree. The guy waving a gun is far less dangerous than the lobbyist keeping people from getting healthcare or kicking them off insurance while terminally ill, or the politician disenfranchising people or criminalizing harmless recreative activities by minorites creating a penitentiary culture that rips families apart. Or testifying tobacco doesn't give you cancer under oath, or deregulating what we can dump in the water, or...

You get the point, you want a scoreboard on bodies put in the ground, street thugs are far behind the real gangsters.
 
And this is where we disagree. The guy waving a gun is far less dangerous than the lobbyist keeping people from getting healthcare or kicking them off insurance while terminally ill, or the politician disenfranchising people or criminalizing harmless recreative activities by minorites creating a penitentiary culture that rips families apart. Or testifying tobacco doesn't give you cancer under oath, or deregulating what we can dump in the water, or...

You get the point, you want a scoreboard on bodies put in the ground, street thugs are far behind the real gangsters.
I'm not saying they don't cause more deaths in the long-term, but you can only act in physical self-defense when somebody poses and imminent threat. You have to take the rest to court such as what happened to Purdue Pharma.
 
I dunno what the fuck you mean by "before they even had communities".

You remind me of a @BeautifulBullshitter I once encountered. Only you actually believe your Tucker Carlson/FoxNews bullshit.

I'll dumb it down, one point at a time.

Before There Were Black Communities In America, There Were Racists In America

You contend that racism and discrimination are Black people's fault, because you allege they have "high" crimes in their communities. Emphasis added.
You're conveniently ignoring what leads to racism and discrimination. Much of it has to do with the outsized criminal behavior of the demographic which we've established has to do with poverty/lack of opportunity. So it's circular.
If crime in the black community is significantly reduced most of the racism towards them (especially by police) will go away.
I said, and am now saying for the third time, but in a dumbed down manner: Racism and discrimination in American started before Blacks even had communities in this country.

Let me stop there, because I now have to dumb something else down. You asked:
I dunno what the fuck you mean by "before they even had communities". Humans live in communities by nature and have since our documented existence. When we pillaged Africa, they were in communities.
Dumbed down response:
You claim racism etc. is based on crime in Black communities.
I said racism existed before there were Black communities in America.
You became confused.

Explained:
In the beginning,
How can Black communities in Africa, make Whites in America, racist? There was no Fox News then to report on TV, because many racist couldn't read, whether or not there were crimes in Black communities in Africa.

There wouldn't even be Black communities in Africa, there would just be 'communities.'

Continuing:
Whites took slaves, tortured them, raped them, killed them, not because of what they saw on the news. They did it because they were racist, and evil.

It had nothing to do with crime statistics.

My premises:
Current racists are inherently racist. They are racist regardless of crime statistics. Just as racism existed when the first slaves arrived; it is based on nothing but skin color.

Closeted racists use things like "crime statistics" to feel better about their racist hearts.
 
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