Okay. And just to put a finer point on it, how about I retract "essential" and replace it with "important?" You may still not agree, but we will at least have bridged the gap a bit.
Low-Carb Diet Can Cure Type-2 Diabetes
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Already in your previous post you clarified that you consider carbs "essential for your diet". Whether you consider them "essential for your diet" or "important for your diet" is something I have no opinion about.
I have experimented in the past with periods of high carbs, periods of very low carbs, and carb levels in between. I have experienced both the benefits and disadvantages during these experiments of both high and low carbs. Of course, the low carb experiment resulted in me losing weight. But also in the realisation that I don't want to do that for periods exceeding a couple of months. So I have gradually added some carbs back in my eating habits to a point where it keeps my weight in balance. I call it an eating habit instead of a diet as this is intended for the long run, not for a limited period of time (diets are often considered temporarily).
Carbs are not essential in that if you remove them from your body you can still function. If you remove protein or fats you will have serious health issues and even death. Our society though thinks they cannot live without bread and grains because they were brainwashed to think so by the USDA when they made fat the culprit. But triglycerides, which are fats in your blood, come from excessive glucose. Type 2 diabetes is caused by too much glucose (carbs).
HOWEVER, when we talk about restricted carb diet we are not necessarily talking a Ketogenic diet. Carbs still include fruits and vegetables. If you are type 2 diabetes though and just cannot say no to grains and sugars well then you just have to deal with the horrible degeneration that occurs in nerve endings with diabetes and the fact you caused yourself to get a disease. It is easy for someone to say they cannot live without their bread and pasta but when you have Type -2 it is pretty easy to choose life over bagels.
All the symptoms described when you drastically cut carbs go away after your body adapts so obviously they are not permanent, just part of the process. But again I am not saying go to a 0 net carb diet.
You can live without grains and sugars. All the nutrients and minerals found in flour and other grain based products are added in anyweayand you will be healthier getting them from vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds anyway.
The problem with the statement "low-carb" is people always take it to the extreme but fruits and vegetables have healthy carbs. But we don't need breads, pastas, cookies, sugar drinks, etc. We just choose to indulge and live with the consequences
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HOWEVER, when we talk about restricted carb diet we are not necessarily talking a Ketogenic diet. Carbs still include fruits and vegetables. If you are type 2 diabetes though and just cannot say no to grains and sugars well then you just have to deal with the horrible degeneration that occurs in nerve endings with diabetes and the fact you caused yourself to get a disease. It is easy for someone to say they cannot live without their bread and pasta but when you have Type -2 it is pretty easy to choose life over bagels.
All the symptoms described when you drastically cut carbs go away after your body adapts so obviously they are not permanent, just part of the process. But again I am not saying go to a 0 net carb diet.
You can live without grains and sugars. All the nutrients and minerals found in flour and other grain based products are added in anyweayand you will be healthier getting them from vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds anyway.
The problem with the statement "low-carb" is people always take it to the extreme but fruits and vegetables have healthy carbs. But we don't need breads, pastas, cookies, sugar drinks, etc. We just choose to indulge and live with the consequences
.And now for something a little different:
http://www.newsweek.com/low-carb-an...y-effective-weight-loss-study-suggests-815291
So at the end of the day, it's a combination of balance and intelligent food choices. Extremes are for extremists (who flame out anyway).
http://www.newsweek.com/low-carb-an...y-effective-weight-loss-study-suggests-815291
So at the end of the day, it's a combination of balance and intelligent food choices. Extremes are for extremists (who flame out anyway).
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It's not really carbs that are the cause of diabetes. It's visceral fat deposits in the pancreas and probably liver. If you lose the visceral fat, you lose the diabetes. So if you went on a calories controlled diet which meant you lost that fat, you would free yourselve from diabetes...it could be a high carb diet or a low one, doesnt matter.When type-2 diabetes patients follow a low carbohydrate diet for a year, they lose an average of 13 kilos (28 lbs), increase their insulin sensitivity and drastically reduce their use of medicines. After that year may sometimes even completely abandon their medication. American researchers report this in Diabetes Therapy.
Study
The researchers collected a group of 349 people with type-2 diabetes. The study participants were allowed to choose their treatment: Usual Care [nothing special], or Continuous Care Intervention [a year-long low carbohydrate diet].
Results
Although the study participants were allowed to eat as much as they wanted, the typical low-carbohydrate participant lost about 13 kilos of body weight. Because the subjects weighed 116 kilos on average before the diet began, this weight reduction was not enough to achieve a healthy weight. But with weight loss of this order, you can expect diabetics to significantly reduce their use of medicine. [PLoS One. 2012;7(2):e32395.]
The low-carbohydrate diet reduced the HbA1c concentration in the subjects' blood. The lower this value, the greater the sensitivity to insulin.
In the subjects in the control group, the sensitivity to insulin did not improve.
As you would expect with such nice results, most participants in the low-carbohydrate group were able reduce their medication use. This also happened with the diabetics who had to use insulin.
Conclusion
"This study demonstrated that a type-2 diabetes intervention combining technology-enabled continuous remote care with individualized care plans encouraging nutritional ketosis can significantly reduce HbA1c, medication use, and weight within 70 days, and that these outcomes can be maintained or improved through 1 year", the researchers noted.
"Most intervention participants [..] reported at 1 year achieved glycemic control in the sub-diabetes range with either no medication or the use of metformin alone. Related health parameters improved including blood pressure, lipid-lipoprotein profile, inflammation, and liver function."
"Ongoing research will determine the continued sustainability, effectiveness, and safety of these behavioral and metabolic changes."
Source: Diabetes Ther. 2018 Feb 7. doi: 10.1007/s13300-018-0373-9.
I am a fat fuck. I used to be in great shape, much like our exalted leader Baron. I am on the third week of no carbs, simply because my son is getting married at the end of March, and I don't want to look like a seal healing on the beach after a shark attack. I can tell you this. At the age of 57 it is a lot harder than the age of 37. 3 weeks into it and I have lost almost 10 lbs. Never been diagnosed with diabetes, although it seems like all my friends have been. In all fairness, I have been working out for over 30 years...but being the family cook puts the pounds on no matter what you do. Once my weight gets down to a managable level I will most definitely be introducing carbs into mt diet. Just gotta be smart with what type of carbs you use.
Several researchers disagree with you on this one. They claim that insulin insensitivity results in high blood sugar levels, which in turn leads to type 2 diabetes. They claim that, to reverse the situation and get rid of the type 2 diabetes, you need to make the body sensitive to insulin (i.e. restore the insulin sensitivity). Once the insulin sensitivity is restored will the blood sugar level go down and will the type 2 diabetes disappear. As a side effect will the patient also lose weight (i.e. body fat).
Hang in there. Being on a diet with no carbs isn't easy. But you have a good reason to do it.