Looks like they are already planning "The Empire Strikes Back"

Tough to stand up to the mob mentality, isn't it?



Quote from ak15:

Never ever have I condoned the act of raping a 10 year-old child or that such an act could be justified by its moral defense. I did say and continue to persist that an individual has the right to express his/her views and opinions here. I have not mentioned anywhere on this site that I defend Z's statement about the raping of a 10year old child and the moral defense rationalization.

I'll reiterate that I don't consider Z to be a pedophile. Having said that, it is loathsome to see him attempt to vindicate and exculpate pedophilia based on the premise of morality.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Tough to stand up to the mob mentality, isn't it?

The mob mentality doesn't bother me since I'm not here to prove a point to anybody. I am secure in my belief and value system. The atmosphere begins to get sullied, when people start perpetrating lies, viciousness and foul-language. Then the benefits of debate and beneficial exchange of ideas are no longer an option. Regardless, you have to trudge through for what you believe in.
As long as I don't compromise myself, I'll be alright.
 
Quote from ak15:

Never ever have I condoned the act of raping a 10 year-old child or that such an act could be justified by its moral defense. I did say and continue to persist that an individual has the right to express his/her views and opinions here. I have not mentioned anywhere on this site that I defend Z's statement about the raping of a 10year old child and the moral defense rationalization.

I'll reiterate that I don't consider Z to be a pedophile. Having said that, it is loathsome to see him attempt to vindicate and exculpate pedophilia based on the premise of morality.
I never said that you condone the act of raping a 10 year-old child, nor that you defended the Fuckwit Alcoholic ZTroll-in-Relapse in his Moronic suggestion that such an act is morally defensible. Please review my posts if there is a question about this.

That the cocksucking Troll is a moral monster is not in question. We are compelled to shout it down every time it vomits the kind of filth we saw in the thread in question. I want to see everyone state unambiguously that he has the right to his opinions, and then immediately tell him to go fuck himself for suggesting such stupidity.
 
Nik, look at the second post in this thread and tell me what it has to do with the first post. Now look at the first post's content and the second post's author.
 
Quote from traderNik:


I want to see everyone state unambiguously that he has the right to his opinions, and then immediately tell him to go fuck himself for suggesting such stupidity.

Let me clarify here. Are you suggesting that Z has no right to post his opinions here on any subject matter period?
 
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Poll: Majority Of Republicans Want Party To Be More Like Palin


Huffington Post | Nicholas Graham | February 2, 2009 12:21 PM

While the media and political elites debate the future of the GOP, rank and file Republicans see see no need to deviate from the party's current path. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, a plurality of Republican voters think the party has grown too moderate over the past eight years, and a majority think the party should become more like controversial Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

These sentiments echo the view of new RNC chairman Michael Steele, who in an interview on Fox News yesterday strongly iterated that the GOP's troubles stemmed not from their governing policies but their failure to successfully sell those policies to the American people:

We failed to lead," said the former Lt. Maryland Governor. "The principles we espoused [in 1994] are still true and good today and that's not what people moved away from us for. They moved away from us because we behaved badly. We came to Washington and we became like the people we were sent here to replace. And they replaced us."

Newt Gingrich, the leader of the Republican Revolution in the early 90s, sees Palin as a "formidable" candidate amid a very open Republican field for the 2012 presidential race:

If Sarah Palin seeks out a group of very sophisticated policy advisers and develops a fairly sophisticated platform, she will be very formidable.

However, one fairly high-profile disagreement Palin has with national Republicans regards the stimulus package pushed by Obama. Palin, along with many other Republican governors facing large state deficits, supports passage of the bill, a position not shared by many of her Republican colleagues in the Senate and House.

Republicans, back in the minority, have also rediscovered a new appreciation for fiscal conservatism after the profligate Bush years, and may not take to kindly to Palin's latest project: a road to nowhere that could ultimately cost up to $2 billion.


the history of the GOP is the same as its always been.....

the Democrats make idiots of themselves, the country rejects them, and the GOP steps in and plays adult...

and then the Democrats recruit millions of illegal immigrants with promises of "stimulus", or "welfare" as it's been known for decades...




"Joe the Plumber" ....... are you that DUMB!?
 
Quote from traderNik:

I never said that you condone the act of raping a 10 year-old child, nor that you defended the Fuckwit Alcoholic ZTroll-in-Relapse in his Moronic suggestion that such an act is morally defensible. Please review my posts if there is a question about this.

That the cocksucking Troll is a moral monster is not in question. We are compelled to shout it down every time it vomits the kind of filth we saw in the thread in question. I want to see everyone state unambiguously that he has the right to his opinions, and then immediately tell him to go fuck himself for suggesting such stupidity.

Exactly. It is a moral obligation to condemn ZZZzzzz as much as possible.

Silence is appropriate for those who fear away from actual condemnation but the act of actually feeding this criminal with the respect of agreeing with any of his views are absolutely idiotic and irresponsible.

FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO AGREE WITH BESIDES A PERSON WHO ADVOCATES THE RAPE OF 10 YEAR OLDS!

Jesus I can't imagine the lack of a judgement a person needs to have to actually respectfully communicate with this type of person. The only person that would respectfully communicate with this type of person most likely also advocates the rape of 10 year olds as well...
 
Quote from traderNik:I want to see everyone state unambiguously that he has the right to his opinions
Quote from ak15:Let me clarify here. Are you suggesting that Z has no right to post his opinions here on any subject matter period?
Sometimes I just have to wonder. I guess unambiguously wasn't unambiguous enough.
 
Given enough time true nature of the fascist comes out...even when they are young and stupid.

I have stayed silent watching the fools make fools of themselves like they always do.

I have stated before quite plainly that I support the laws of our land and agree with them, even would like to see greater enforcement of them and a stronger justice system, especially one that is truly blind to color, creed, gender, and how wealthy a defendant is.

So for the resident idiots:

1. If a person supports the laws of America, which are clear when it comes to rape, marriage age, sex with minors, etc. than there is no question (except by an idiot) where that person stands on "right and wrong" of actions in America according to the law. Ours is a nation of laws, a republic, not a lynch mob empire based on fundamentalism or religious edict, or facist thinkers like the ones that pee their pants on a regular basis here at ET.

Our morality is based on laws, not the reverse. As we see laws change, then morality follows. Laws are the bottom line, not someone's moral opinions.

It was right and lawful to drink, then it was wrong and unlawful to drink, then it was right and lawful to drink. What the fuck? Yes, that is America. We are a nation of laws, which change because they are not based on some ephemeral moral absolute.

Multiple examples show how morality is adopted when laws are passed. Sure there is argument on why a particular law is passed, but those who obey, follow and support those laws do so because they are the law, because they are good and loyal Americans...not because of their personal individual take on morality.

Those who break those laws, may claim to be morally right...but that matters little to our justice system, or at least the justice system the framers had in mind.

We go by the law, and if we don't like the law, then we go through the proper steps to change the law.

2. Those who would seek to enforce our laws on other cultures and societies outside of our legal jurisdiction are fascist in nature, end of story.

Not a single one of the ET idiots would like it if Muslims enforced their laws on non Muslim Americans, and the ET idiot mob doesn't much like it when Muslims or any other group or culture or nation denounces America for its laws and lack of morality from their "alien" point of view.

Idiots want to make some culture war, where the framers wanted to make ours a republic based on laws and a fair justice system.

Enough said.

That should give the ET idiots enough to bleed for a week or two...

Quote from NeoRio1:

Exactly. It is a moral obligation to condemn ZZZzzzz as much as possible.

Silence is appropriate for those who fear away from actual condemnation but the act of actually feeding this criminal with the respect of agreeing with any of his views are absolutely idiotic and irresponsible.

FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO AGREE WITH BESIDES A PERSON WHO ADVOCATES THE RAPE OF 10 YEAR OLDS!

Jesus I can't imagine the lack of a judgement a person needs to have to actually respectfully communicate with this type of person. The only person that would respectfully communicate with this type of person most likely also advocates the rape of 10 year olds as well...
 
Quote from traderNik:

Sometimes I just have to wonder. I guess unambiguously wasn't unambiguous enough.

It wasn't unambiguous enough to start with.

Quote from traderNik:

I want to see everyone state unambiguously that he has the right to his opinions, and then immediately tell him to go fuck himself for suggesting such stupidity.


Everyone is a single person here? You want to tell "him (everyone) to go fuck himself for suggesting such stupidity?"


Regardless, it isn't unambiguous anymore.
 
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